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Winnerz a Fraud!

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hace 2 años

What is youre experience of this new casino? If you dont have any, stay far away.opened an account 27/1,lost some and asked emailed them asking them to close my account due to gambling issues. They instructed me to do it using a cooloff function on the site, i did so and blocked my self for 30 days…. 30/1 addict as i am I opened a new account on the same site signing and depositing with bankid /veryfing personalid, name and adress each time i deposit. I won some, and first today i got contacted by their Securitydepartment receiving info that my new account are blocked (of course) and the winnings confiscated (can understand that), when asking them to send back the approximatly 347 euros i deposit since yesterday, im told that they hav placed those money on the account i opened 27/1 and asked them go close due to gambling issues.. horrifying, when demanding them to pay those funds immideatly to my bankaccount (that i used for deposits) they answer me "As a loyalty gesture, we have refunded your deposits to your first player accouny", as a lotalty gesture? This is maffiabehaviour, and they should be blacklisted immideatly, everyone should stay far away, due to player safety matters. The fact that they can Hold except winnings Also youre money are horryfying. They should be blacklisted asap, they dont have a mgalicens i know and i feel stupid even considering opening an account with them, they are regulated through an Estonian licens, and as a EU-member i thought they were safe.

Birgule81
hace 2 años

Hello, just to be sure - did you mean this casino, please?

Radka
hace 2 años

https://www.winnerz.com/, this one-might be the same..not sure

Birgule81
hace 2 años

There are cases where casinos deserve to be blacklisted, but this isn't one of them. You breached their terms and conditions by creating another account. They did what only a fair casino would do: They voided the winnings, but returned the deposits.

Of course, the problem is that they had to close the 2nd account immediately so they decided to move the deposits to your 1st account. If I understand it correctly, your 1st account is closed now due to self-exlusion for 30 days, but it will be reopen after that. Then, that will be the moment when you should be able withdraw back all your deposits.

The only thing I'm concerned about is the fact that they shouldn't let you reopen the account if it's closed due to gambling issues. It should remain closed when you mention that this is the reason for closing your account. But the tool you described probably works differently. It doesn't matter what's the reason for closing account, the player has always an option to choose a specific period (30days etc.).

hace 2 años

Como usted y su función no deben subestimarse, opera en un mercado donde el cliente es muy vulnerable. Como un adicto al juego donde menciono activamente la adicción y pido que me bloqueen, todavía poder configurar otra cuenta y luego depositar unas 15-20 veces es horrible, ganar y comprar el hecho de que están confiscando las ganancias. Sin embargo, debido a la seguridad del jugador y ese aspecto, es espeluznante que ambos amenacen con confiscar los fondos depositados y finalmente piensen que están haciendo una buena acción que los coloca en la misma cuenta previamente abierta que se le pidió que cerrara debido a Adicción al juego. Teniendo en cuenta que crea / paga con bankid donde se verifica toda la información, como el número de seguro social / nombre / dirección, etc., ¿por qué esperan que deposite unas 20 veces y posiblemente reclamen una ganancia antes de cerrar la cuenta? Sería una alegría si pudieras aislarte globalmente y evitar este infierno.

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Daniel
hace 2 años

Solo quiero decir que todos somos adultos y debemos asumir nuestra propia responsabilidad, sin embargo, hay jugadores que asumen su responsabilidad y hacen que eventos como este sean imposibles, sería completamente imposible para mí abrir una nueva cuenta en Quick.bet, como tan pronto como inicio sesión con mi BankID, me bloquean, lo mismo se aplica a muchos otros jugadores, este jugador le brinda la oportunidad de reabrir, depositar muchas veces y luego cerrar. Esto es exactamente lo que haría un jugador serio en un mercado con muchas personas vulnerables.

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Birgule81
hace 2 años

It's interesting to see that you mentioned the option to shut yourself off globally. We started a global exclusion initiative during last year. It's gonna be a long process, but we'd like to help creating a tool that would enable this. Take a look: https://casino.guru/global-self-exclusion-initiative

I agree that considering the fact you deposited with BankID, then it shouldn't be that difficult for the casino to block your account immediately. There are systems that can block you automatically when you add the same name and details about yourself, when you use the same IP address or even the same device. Then this should be possible as well.

Daniel
hace 2 años

Realmente admiro su trabajo en la implementación de una herramienta de este tipo, una herramienta de exclusión global beneficiaría enormemente a un número increíble de personas y familias. Lea una entrevista con uno de sus representantes que me impresionó, me dirijo y espero que todos los actores que no se toman en serio esta adicción y sus problemas revisen de inmediato sus reglas y procedimientos. Sin embargo, es importante que se expongan y terminen en la luz, hay una enorme cantidad de actores serios, responsables y talentosos, ciertamente hay tantos malos, es importante que la gente tenga una idea de quién. a quien no acudir


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hace 2 años

All is fine until you try get money out. Then they use every rule against you. My neighbor country acts like nigerians. Very sad.

hace 2 años

Unfortunately this message didn't show me before I registered. They have one their own review in main page. This is one man casino = zombie casino. No support, no cash history, no game history. Only automatic emails. Don't waste your time.

Daniel
hace 2 años

You don't have much responsible gaming options in your site. Your software have option to give clients possibility set deposit limits...but you have decided to not use it.

hace 2 años

Unfortunately this message didn't show me before I registered. They have one their own review in main page. This is one man casino = zombie casino. No support, no cash history, no game history. Only automatic emails. Don't waste your time.

hace 2 años

Hello,

I answered you here.

Did you play with any bonus? Do you have some screenshots showing there is no history available?

JuhaK
hace 2 años

We don't really have any software that would allow our clients to set deposit limits, since we're not a casino, we have no clients in terms of players who deposit and lose money and we don't even accept any form of deposits.

We also have a whole website section dedicated to responsible gambling: https://casino.guru/problem-gambling

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Daniel
hace 2 años

I hope that this global exclusion thing will be implemented soon. Many friends of mine committed suicide. Online gaming is the only where we cannot be rescued at the moment.

Birgule81
hace 2 años

Totally agree..

hace 2 años

I hope that this global exclusion thing will be implemented soon. Many friends of mine committed suicide. Online gaming is the only where we cannot be rescued at the moment.

hace 2 años

I would not say "only" but yes - there is a lot to be done in order to improve the current state of a proper safer gambling environment.

hace 2 años

Winnerz.com<————-> fraud scammers dont play or deposit.yesterday 2020-10-21 i won 4600 euro and i Disney get the money out the keep asking for more end more dokumention of income and finlly about what car u have etc, etc just wont pay the money out the the shut my account down rest is hostory

richardbollstrom8
hace 2 años

Hello,

it sounds like you had a real issue passing the account verification. Any particular document you find hard to provide, please?

I can imagine that you would like your winnings to be paid out immediately, but the casino must verify you and your payment option to accept the withdrawal, this is an inevitable procedure in every decent casino.

Let me know how it goes, please.


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