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¿Por qué la gente juega?

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hace 1 año

El juego es rampante en estos días y me preguntaba por qué la gente lo juega.

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WeigelP
hace 1 año

Because I like to give my money to corrupt uncharitable causes online casinod!!💵🤣🤬🤬🤬

Anonymized417
hace 1 año

🙂 that sounds undoubtably honest...

hace 1 año

El juego es rampante en estos días y me preguntaba por qué la gente lo juega.

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hace 1 año

For a vision of easily gained money, perhaps?

Always considered all deposited money as lost, and only play with funds you can afford to lose. Once you adapt to this idea, it spoils the falsely made expectations, right? 😀

Radka
hace 1 año

How did this happen by chance?

Yesterday I started with €20 the Netent slot played ok I got up to €79 with a couple of average bonus features at .50 a spin I went up to €1 and then all I got was dead spins down to 0.00!! Exactly The same this morning went up to €75 and then DEAD SPINS down to 0.00 again this time I stayed on .50 but no difference. RNG is B*****Is Netent slots are CORRUPT!!

Anonymized417
hace 1 año

I'm sure you know I can't explain further than I tried several times before. 🙁 Those questions should be told to Netent, by the way.

Don't be mad at me, but it sounds normal to me. Low pool, changed amount bet - the longer you play the more likely the houe edge will eat your balance.

Would be good to mention the actual RTP the casino provides + the volatility level.

Radka
hace 1 año

Good morning Radka I wasn't having a go at you I was just stating my experience playing a Netent slot and the fact!! ,from my playing experience, that once you start losing your balance NEVER recoverd and all you get is dead spins until you are zeroed out so this brings into question wether it is a RNG or something more sinister going on with Netents software that runs their games. I have contacted Netents/Evolution but having no reply, I even contacted the Gambling commission as I stated that I don't believe every slot has been tested by independent regulators as there are thousands of slots and I couldn't believe that they have been tested over a million spins to show the RTP. I shouldn't complain really as it's my choice to gamble or not

Have a nice day

Nigeljc59

Anonymized417
hace 1 año

That's ok! 🙂 No worries.

Honestly, I didn't know you tried to get in touch with the provider. My thanks for sharing with us. I also do not blindly believe all slots in each casino are regularly checked, probably a result of the fact how slots are designed and operated:

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Not much one can actually check.


"if you are losing too much while playing a game from a reputable game provider, you can be quite sure that it’s just your bad luck. Even if you play your favorite game at an unknown casino, you are quite safe, in terms of game fairness"

Have a good one!

Editado por el autor hace 1 año
hace 1 año

De hecho, rara vez juego en los casinos en línea porque solía tener miedo de jugar allí. Pero recientemente, cuando el casino se volvió aún más popular, también decidí dónde puedo ganar dinero y pasar tardes interesantes y tristes.

Editado por Radka hace 1 año
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WeigelP
hace 1 año

In the best case scenario simply because of the thrill and the slight hope of earning more money at some point. Pure and basic human behavior 😄

But if you notice more people gambling these days, it might also be because some see in it a (bad) solution to their financial struggle.

Anonymized417
hace 1 año

I've never & will get on a NETENT roulette RNG. The freeplay European roulette on Casino Guru is a joke. Real money isn't even wagered here yet 9 out of 10 times it does things that seems impossible for a RNG machine. When my system wins on black or red, it will run off 19, the most so far of the losing color. It will go 9 to 12 straight skip a spin or 2 then go back on another string as long as I'm betting on my color. As soon as jump to the hitting color, the color I lost on starts hitting. Here's one that's so bogus. With $.50 units, I placed. 50 cents on 2 double streets & $1 a color. Total bet $2 to start. When the ball lands on the color my bet is on in the double street, i win 1 to 1 on the color & 5 to 1 on the double street. Landing on the other color in the double street win only 5 to 1. When my color hits outside the double street is a push. After every spin win or lose I add 1 unit on each of the 2 double streets, & 2 units on the color, I cover the zero later when the bet is up to $15. because of the 35 to 1 payout. That leaves 14 of 37 losing numbers. 12 of which 4 is the Color opposite of my color & zero wins. 11 get my bet back. The amount bet per spin is more than the last. Starts at $2, then $4, $6, $8, $10 $12 $14 $18 the jump to $18 is now placing 2 units on zero. I was up over $112 per spin but had lost over $1400 in fun money. Come on! With 14 of 37 numbers will lose. It went 12 straight red a black & another 8 red is unlikely. This NETENT roulette consistently has blocks of the same color like 5 or more of red then switch to 5 or more black. Always hitting the losing color.

Numbers are the same all the numbers but mine.

NETENT is a ripoff & it's not even real money. You'd think they would make it random to encourage players. 18 red 1 or 2 black & 5 or more red is 25 to 2. Random? Not even.

Lopaka59
hace 1 año

Its what Ive been saying all along I think it is something more sinister written into the software playing slots once you have had 15 dead spins in a row the slot never recovers and you could get 80 or until you have nothing left in your balance.

Anonymized417
hace 1 año

A friend who is very knowledgeable regarding algorithms, said that algorithms are written to perform a response according to players input, such as placing bets on black to win. When the algorithm confirms that action, it will return what was written in the algorithm such as allowing a certain percent of wins to occur on any color or number. Mind you that percent is written to change so it's not obvious. It can be programmed by the amount that is wagered per bet, like allowing more wins on smaller bets & less on higher bets. So someone like me where I start with low bets, will win a high percent of my bets. Seeing the wins coming in, I'll start increasing my bets only to have less wins. It can be programmed to allow a percentage of big wins to keep players coming back, & when you do that's when you'll lose what you have won before & new money wagered thinking that you can win like the last time. Algorithms can also learn your system of play & work against it.

My friend suggested to gamble at a land based or brick & mortar casino where the chance of that happening isn't likely.

I thought about getting a friend to play at the same time from his home & see if the outcome is the same for both of us. That would be an interesting experiment. My problem is getting people I know to gamble online. I chose to play online because I can gamble any time any day 24/7. Everyone knows going to a real casino takes lots of time & effort to do. Friend's have said you lose money faster online. I started gambling only last year & I'm happy to say I'm still ahead but I'm giving back the casinos money I've won & I'm trying to find a winning system to turn that around. Systems that won me $10k two months in a row, December & January doesn't work now. My friend said the algorithm has learned my system & works against it. I have a physical roulette wheel & table. My systems performs well on it. I'm thinking about a trip to a casino to see how things go. No date set yet. I don't have the bankroll I want when I go. When I do, I'll post how it went. Who knows, I might have to change the venue where I gamble. People have said, gamble for fun, don't expect to win, & if you do, consider it an outlier. I gamble expecting to win. It's never fun losing.


Lopaka59
hace 1 año

Well written and well thought out interesting observations on the way you see things. A couple of nice big wins must feel good. I spent last night on a slot for 4hrs I started with €25 playing €1 when it got going in my favour I went up to £?€5 cashed out at €1150 which I'm happy with.

Anonymized417
hace 1 año

Thanks for critiquing my post with a positive response. My guess is you as well have had big wins of your own. I'm somewhat of a newbie in terms of gambling. I'm 64 as of yesterday, & my first 30 years I gambled on my ability in 10-pin bowling & golf. Never was interested in sports betting because I had no control over the outcome. I was born in Hawaii & lived there until moved to Oregon in 1998 where casino gambling is available. Never was interested in any of that because of hearing that most people lose & I didn't know how to play any of the games at the casinos. About 2 years ago I stumbled on Casino.org & from there Casino Guru. I messed around with the free games & became interested in roulette. What got my attention was the many ways it can be wagered on like straight bets, splits, streets, & so on which I didn't know of. I thought roulette would be hard because I thought predicting where the ball will rest on isn't easy. I tinkered with free play during the pandemic. I later found roulette systems on youtube & tested them here. A lot of which I modified. It was injured from being rear-ended that I decided to give roulette a go & playing free roulette became the only game I played every chance I had. I estimate winning over 2 million in fun money I played it so often. It wasn't until last December I played online. Before that, I did go to a casino. Started wonderfully. With an S1300 bankroll, I was up $385 in a short time. The system called for a win in 9 spins & losing the 9th meant losing $1285. Never went past 4 spins. Up $385, I was gonna play one more. Unfortunately, it went to the 9th spin. The system called for adding an increased bet after a loss of up to 7 split bets. The last spin called for 7 bets of $75 each. It was intense being that I never handled real chips & with $5 chips assembling 7-$75 stacks was daunting. Other players were low rollers & with the dealer were all looking my way. I skipped a spin & wasn't quite ready the next. Wearing a mask & the pressure I was perspiring profusely. Abandoning the list of where to place the chips because never had gone past 4 spins & sitting at the end of the table called for asking the dealer & other players to place my bets. Compounding the stress was 7 $75 stacks which I never did before. Each stack called for 15 chips & I was putting each stack together 2 chips at a time. I later figured 5 would've been faster. By then the board with previous wins was useless, & I stupidly had the dealer place my bets randomly. While the wheel was spinning & just before no more bets were called, I realized 35 was one of the 7 bets. I quickly fumbled for a black, $100 chip to place on 35 right in front of me, but was too late. 35 was the winning number. I was stunned as everyone looked my way. I asked to color up my $385 & left. Of the 3 outcomes, placing the bet correctly would've covered my last 8 losses an $85 profit & $465 session. Had I placed the black chip on 35 would've been a $3500 win. I ended up losing $915.

I stopped gambling. Online was out of the question, because people have said you get cheated there. It was almost a year later that I gave online a try with a different system. From December 8th to January & 7th with $1500 I had won $10,385 I realized I had won $10k more than the last time I gambled. What an omen. After 10 days into the next 30 days, I was up over $5000, during which I was splurging the money I had won. Why not? 25 days of 30 I was less than $500 to $10000 for 2 months in a row. I did a stupid thing. I was going to try & win $5000 in one session. I've done it over a dozen times in practice, but it called for not reverting back to the base bet after getting back to session high. The progression was 35, 80, 180, 400, 880, 960. Increasing to the next after 2 losses in a row. When I had reached 960 & kept betting that, I started losing & my emotions kicked in. without a stop-loss planned. I ended up losing everything including my bankroll. What took 25 days to win, I lost in less than an hour. I didn't have the discipline being so new & let my emotions get the best of me. I've tried making a comeback a few times but with no more than $500 & the system not working. I'm looking for another winning system. What an adventure. Whenever I receive a settlement from being rear-ended, I'm gonna start with $2500 & depending on what the settlement is maybe $5000. If you got to this point, thanks for taking the time to read this.

Editado por el autor hace 1 año
Lopaka59
hace 1 año

Wow!!😲 you have a maths brain well done to you I wish you every success with your strategies I just press the button mostly on auto and hope for the best. I do see patterns and I react with my stake accordingly. I joined some dodgy casinos in my time but I'm happy with the one I'm with now

Kind regards

Nigel 😜

Anonymized417
hace 1 año

Thanks, & to you as well. Players like us commit to doing this knowing we're starting out at a disadvantage with the house edge. I like the challenge of relieving the casinos of their money. Bringing to mind as to why would casinos cheat players. I don't have evidence, but with roulette, things like the ball dropping into my pocket without much velocity, then it tumbles out slowly. it's hard to explain you gotta see it for yourself. Another is, I'm struggling up to this point. When things aren't going well with a system, I won't hesitate to switch. What's suspicious is going thru up to 3 or more because systems that were successful before weren't clicking. Then employing a system where only 3 numbers out of 37 will lose. You already know what happened. Worse was going all in.

I started with the live dealer format because for one I was gullible believing casinos won't cheat, they're already racking in millions why would they risk losing their license getting caught cheating on players, & I believed that seeing the action in real time can't be rigged, but weird things happen. with live dealers players have 20 seconds to place their bets just in case you weren't aware. The situation could be either way. I'll place a bet right off. Then just before the start of the spin, or a second or two remaining, a pop-up appears saying, "bet unsuccessful, bet not placed in time." The result is a win, but my bet wasn't allowed. One day I had 3 of those, and all won. I used to video-record every session & got proof & filed a complaint. I was cheated out of over $500. My video showed I placed my bet before the clock expired. They only accepted screenshots. After 3 days they say that their T & C states that their not responsible when glitches occur, but we value your business, so we are in goodwill going to refund you $325. I of course accepted because of their T&C. I attempted another review for something different & was told I was given consideration already for the same complaint. It was not the same. I pointed out that fact without success. Their T & C also states that we can ask for a review for errors. All we can do is try. They make the process difficult asking for an ID number of the bet. The problem is it's not anywhere on the screen, go figure. I know I'm labeled as a complainer, so I don't bother recording my sessions. I looked into going elsewhere online. But I couldn't find one with a safe review that offered a live dealer 50-cent minimum bet. Good when your bankroll is small. What I did when nothing worked, was playing the RNG games. I found better success, but even with that, suspicious things happen but turns out I win more. The most important thing, cashing out has worked well. I deposit with Bitcoin, the fastest payout. Could & have happened in under an hour. One time it was immediate. What I mean was in my Crypto wallet. No fees with cryptocurrency. However, buying & sending it to the casino & selling & sending it to my bank come with fees of 6-7 % I would then execute selling/ converting it to USD & sending it to my bank. Two days later it's in my personal bank account.

I assume you must be winning enough on slots since you're still playing it. Your strategy of seeing promising patterns is working. My hope for you is that it continues to work going forward. Here in Oregon, the state runs everything related to gambling. We have businesses for the purpose of gambling, & RNG machines in restaurants. I know lots of people who play & like in every form of gambling there are way more losers than winners. From being with friends who are gambling, I see no strategy at all. However I have noticed them changing the amount of a bet, but there are no patterns they use, it's a feeling. Most of the time the result is a loss. In fact, I too will go off what the strategy calls for & I've won more than my friends do. With roulette, numbers that have hit will repeat, sometimes back to back. The most I've seen was 3 times in a row. The odds of that happening is 1368:1 When it happened a player typed, "Cheater" The dealer responded in a bewildered tone, "Huh, what do you mean cheating?" I broke out laughing even though I too lost on 3 green double zeros. A lot of roulette strategies involve placing bets on numbers that have hit. All of my systems, I include every winning number in the next spin. The same number will even hit after skipping a few spins after it had hit. To me, losing is bad enough, but to lose twice in a row on the same number is F__ked-up & can be prevented. If I'm betting in groups of numbers, I'll include the number in the group Anyway some friends are addicted so much that they'll lose their whole paycheck. A friend lost her whole student loan of $6000. I wasn't gambling at the time and said she was crazy. So far I still have my home & car. I intend to keep it that way. Are we allowed to say what casino we risk our money at? If so I'll tell you later.

hace 1 año

the culture of games is several hundred years old

people have been playing games since ancient times, including creating excitement

christine831
hace 1 año

It is believed that the first deck of cards 🧐 appeared in the 9th century - a Chinese domino in paper form 👍. The oldest card game still played in casinos is 👉 baccarat, however. 😉

hace 1 año

For emotions, I guess! You get a dose of any emotion, positive or negative, and you don't even have to leave home 🙂

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