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Incrbleskins y KeyGo London son los grandes que aún no han pagado.


¿Alguien con un número de teléfono para ellos?


Hice una nueva devolución de cargo a través de Swedbank ahora pero con el texto anterior. Fue realmente bueno.


Muy buen trabajo el que hiciste Houdini. Gran respeto.

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DynamoHarry
hace 1 año

Haga una advertencia sólo de buena fe. Si menciona la palabra blanqueo de dinero en el Swedbank, está jugando con cartas altas. Recuerde que nosotros, los clientes, también tenemos la gran responsabilidad de asegurarnos y comprobar que no estamos involucrados en algo así.

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Anonymized603 ha borrado el mensaje
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Lamento leer esto hermano. No me sorprende. ¿Sabe en qué parte del Reino Unido puede denunciar estas empresas fraudulentas? Pensé en escribir un correo electrónico a la inspección del juego inglesa, probablemente también estén interesados en esto. Estaba pensando en empezar con Keylissimo, Eduntage, etc., etc.

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Renegade99
hace 1 año

From the casinos perspective, people chargeback for one of two reasons:

1. They want the money they lost back

2. They don't reconignize the charge because it comes up as something completely unrelated and for a different amount


Their optimal strategy is to first assume #2 and politely try to explain to the customer that the charges were theirs and hope the customer cancels the chargeback with their bank. I'm sure this works some percentage of the time. The next step is to threaten collections or legal action. I'm sure this also works some percentage of the time. The last step is to give up.


You have zero to gain by replying to the casino once you already filed the chargeback. You do not owe them any explanation.

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Renegade99 ha borrado el mensaje
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Hard to say really what to do.

If you ignore the casino, I am not sure what they are going to send to Revolut in their response to the chargeback. I would probably just ignore it. Right now, the casino/fake merchant, has no real proof of any delivery.

Anything you reply I guess is something the casino could send in their reply to Revolut for the chargeback.


Revolut really hard to chargeback through. They care 0 about their customers. Like everyone else involved in all this really.



veritas1979
hace 1 año

Yes, I am really disappointed with Revolut, I wrote in detail that they just ignore and deny a refund on Trustpilot without even trying.


when it would have been as easy as just sending a chargeback request to these scam companies, as most of them will not object as they lack proof that you ordered or bought something.


Do like me and go in and leave a rating with an explanation on Trustpilot, maybe they will start to address the problems now that people are complaining

Lucid_1337
hace 1 año

Hola


Puedes adivinarme por tus reseñas de Trustpilot.

¿Ha realizado un informe policial sobre transacciones incorrectas en el tipo de casino instantáneo?

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Lucid_1337
hace 1 año

Necesito asesoramiento porque Northmill Bank quiere que se haga un informe policial allí si va a anunciar transacciones 😊

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Renegade99 ha borrado el mensaje
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Did the casino contact Revolut, as well (meaning if their message is part of the chargeback dispute)?


If not, I would ignore them.


My thinking is that it is your upper hand that the merchant cannot admit your funds when through to a casino, because that would be an admission to the wrongdoing of using wrong merchant codes (which is base for a chargeback).

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Necesito asesoramiento porque Northmill Bank quiere que se haga un informe policial allí si va a anunciar transacciones 😊

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Tell them that the police told you to contact your bank 🙂

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Morning all,


thanks to the users of this forum, I was able to add new merchant details to the table on my site:

https://t.ly/al4s2 (the link is safe)


Here's the table preview:

file

Wishing you all a great weekend full of positive experiences—gambling not included.

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Fangirl23 ha borrado el mensaje
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I do not know destream, but the fact that they responded positively and then went silent is good for your chargeback odds! Hopefully they respond, but in case they don't, make sure to attach it to your chargeback form. I cannot imagine your chargeback not being successful in this particular case!

hace 1 año

How do you get a bankstatement from Revolut?


I tried to do chargeback on my transactions before and told them exactly how it was with the casino, they just reject transactions after transactions and didnt seem helpful at all in my case, Thanks.


Tried to contact all these but with no results:


Pixtab.com

Trinityskins.com

Getmygamekey.com

Ttsindagamers.com

Incredibleskins.com


Etc

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To get Revolut statement:

  1. On the main "page" of your account in the app, click "More" (three dotted icon).
  2. Choose "Statement"

An option is to wait a couple of weeks and then file chargeback on the grounds that you ordered whatever each of them is supposedly selling (i.e. CS2 skins), and never received it, as their business appears to be fraudulent, and you had been scammed.

Bear in mind that this may be considered fraud, and I do not advise you to commit fraud.

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Rex112 ha borrado el mensaje
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I've had two users email me yesterday, providing Chillstock merchant details, informing me that they were refunded by them, but not indicating when. I can ask them if it's okay for you to contact them via email, if you'd like. Email me at [email protected] if you're interested.

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Nidd90
hace 1 año

Ok gracias como reportaste?

¿Que no recibió dinero o que no sabía de transacciones?

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Mrtasty93
hace 1 año

yes, have reported all the transactions to the police 🙂

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Ok gracias como reportaste?

¿Que no recibió dinero o que no sabía de transacciones?

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I never did that. I admitted to gambling when filing for chargebacks with Revolut.

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Dt100 ha borrado el mensaje
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Only found this: Please Help : r/Switzerland (reddit.com)

Funny how no one there speaks about the elephant in the room, which is that they gambled 😀

Fangirl23
hace 1 año

I had the same, filled a form in last week and had nothing back.


Also had altpay deny my refund requests so I have opened a case with the financial ombudsman, they say to contact merchant but as they appear as the actual merchant on the statements I'm hopeful of getting somewhere.


Azurepayments had also got me to fill a form that was a few days ago.. will see what happens there.

Not had much luck with any others yet but will keep knocking at them.


My biggest ones seem to be

Kitchenments (non responsive)


Santeda INTL (have contacted their bank as these were open bank payments)


Gamerdir (non responsive)


Cscannerr (no details)


Dotascanner (no details)


Kaysofcourse/cgcourses (non responsive)

"Cross pay" Uzbekistan (found a company but claims not to be them)


I also did a lot of payments through binance pay... they won't seem to help at this stage, I may have to complain to their license authority but not sure if it'll do much


Also for rankbeast, I got given address details by revolut and it appears to belong to rank.bz who are also non responsive.




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