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hace 5 meses

En realidad no quería escribir nada más sobre esto, pero aquí hay otro post sobre la experiencia que desafortunadamente he tenido durante los últimos tres días. Durante años sólo he jugado a los dos juegos: Big Bass Bonanza y Christmas. Sólo ayer obtuve giros gratis en ambos al menos 20 veces por 2 euros y 3 euros. Cada vez, pero cada vez el primer pescador llegó después del séptimo giro. No importaba si tenía 15 o 10 giros gratis. Cada vez después del séptimo giro. Cada vez gané menos de 100 euros. En Big Bass Halloween unas 10 veces por 1,50 y 1,80, ni una sola vez por encima de los 100 euros. En Tropicana 5 veces por 2,40, 5 veces por 1,20 y 5 veces por 0,96 euros, ni una sola vez por encima de 50 euros. Sólo una vez, de todos los giros gratis anteriores y otros al menos 20-25 con apuestas de 1 euro, 1,20, etc., llegué a la tercera ronda y gané 87 euros. ¿Se supone que eso es aleatorio? ¿Giros gratis por valor de más de 10.000 euros con más del 80% en su bolsillo y la misma ganancia barata y exactamente el mismo proceso? No, no tiene nada que ver con la aleatoriedad. Es simplemente un proveedor de juegos muy inteligente que configura todo para cada uno de nosotros dependiendo del tipo de juego. En 2 años he tenido miles de giros gratis y ni una sola vez, ni siquiera ese pez gordo, ha ganado 2000x. Cada vez he ganado 10x, 12x o peor. En 50 giros gratis, tal vez una vez haya ganado 200 más que la ganancia típica. ¿Y hay algunas otras personas que escriben aquí que tiene algo que ver con la suerte? ¿Cómo es posible que después de 1 o 2 giros sepa exactamente cómo irá el resto? ¿Porque tiene que ver con la suerte o con el azar? Por supuesto que no, porque todo el mundo tiene una mentalidad que sabe que después de algunas pequeñas victorias seguiremos jugando y tal vez paguemos más. Entonces, si alguien escribe aquí que es un juego de azar, etc., definitivamente no es del todo honesto. Gracias

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hace 5 meses

Otra novedad: ayer, por unos 400 euros de depósito, obtuve varias veces giros gratis en Big Bass Bonanza y Christmas, una vez fueron 150 euros, el resto por debajo de 50. Por supuesto, se acabó todo el dinero. Desde ayer por la noche hasta hace poco, deposité 600 euros, 2 x giros gratis de 1 euro. Por supuesto, en ambas ocasiones fui el primer pescador después del séptimo giro y gané 28 euros. ¿Quién más quiere decir que casino cashwin.com y pragmatic no son estafadores? Juegos por valor de más de 30.000 euros en 7 días y siempre lo mismo.

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hace 5 meses

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I guess they started reading our posts on casino guru. The series of wins over the last two weeks was something incredible and indescribable. From deposits totaling approximately EUR 400, the total winnings amount to over EUR 10,000. I lost everything to zero, because when you want to keep playing and build balance, the casino will definitely tell you no and take away all your funds. It has always been so and will be so forever. I don't want to favor any casino, but at Betunlim I had the most epic wins of my life. Try to play from Saturday to Sunday. Then a lot of people play and the chances for epic hits are the highest, in my opinion.

hace 5 meses

Otra novedad: ayer, por unos 400 euros de depósito, obtuve varias veces giros gratis en Big Bass Bonanza y Christmas, una vez fueron 150 euros, el resto por debajo de 50. Por supuesto, se acabó todo el dinero. Desde ayer por la noche hasta hace poco, deposité 600 euros, 2 x giros gratis de 1 euro. Por supuesto, en ambas ocasiones fui el primer pescador después del séptimo giro y gané 28 euros. ¿Quién más quiere decir que casino cashwin.com y pragmatic no son estafadores? Juegos por valor de más de 30.000 euros en 7 días y siempre lo mismo.

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hace 5 meses

I don't understand one thing. If you have this opinion and you are not doing well and you think that pragmatic is a bad provider and you don't get free spins or it's only once in a while, or even if you do get it, it always pays so little, why do you keep playing on these slots ? I have a feeling that you are going against yourself and it makes absolutely no sense to lose money on something that has somehow been verified by your own judgement. 

hace 5 meses

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I guess they started reading our posts on casino guru. The series of wins over the last two weeks was something incredible and indescribable. From deposits totaling approximately EUR 400, the total winnings amount to over EUR 10,000. I lost everything to zero, because when you want to keep playing and build balance, the casino will definitely tell you no and take away all your funds. It has always been so and will be so forever. I don't want to favor any casino, but at Betunlim I had the most epic wins of my life. Try to play from Saturday to Sunday. Then a lot of people play and the chances for epic hits are the highest, in my opinion.

hace 5 meses

I guess it's the first time I see that you have such screenshots and I'm sure glad if you managed to win. The other side of the coin is that you probably lost it all back, which is pretty sad, because you don't have to win that kind of money in a casino. 

But I'm pleased that it's not just about how bad everything is.

hace 5 meses

HELLO, I AM WRITTEN TO YOU FROM TURKEY. FIRST, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY ENGLISH. I ALSO THINK THE PRAGMATIC GAMES ARE SERIOUSLY FOOLED ME NOW. I BOUGHT 11 FREE HAND SPINS AND LOST 11 HANDS IN A ROW. I THINK THE GAMES WERE INTERFERED AND MANIPULATED. THE SITES I PLAY ON ARE BETNANO AND BETSAT IN TURKEY. THERE ARE INTERVENTIONS IN BOTH SITES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GAME HISTORY ADDRESSES, THE ADDRESS OF ONE IS BETSUDIOS, BASED IN MALTA, AND THE ADDRESS OF ONE IS HIS OWN SERVERS. AS MUCH AS I UNDERSTAND, THESE SERVERS ARE CHEATING WITH 3RD PARTY SOFTWARE. I AM ADDING THE SCREENSHOTS.THIS CANNOT BE CALLED LUCK. I BUY 19 GAMES ON THE BETSAT SITE, 3 GAMES A SMALL WIN, 16 GAMES A FULL LOSS. I BUY 11 GAMES ON THE BETNANO SITE, ALL 11 GAMES ARE LOST. SOMEONE PROVE TO ME THAT THIS IS NORMAL. THIS IS NOT NORMAL IT IS A SCAM

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hace 5 meses

PLEASE DONT GAMBLE ANYONE. GAMBLING IS FINANCIAL RUIN. I HATE GAMBLING SO MUCH. STAKE CASINO AND PRAGMATIC PLAY ARE BIG FRAUDS. YESTERDAY I LOST 82$ IN PRAGMATIC PLAY WITH NO BONUS.

kabcd42
hace 5 meses

Como dices, es un juego de azar, por lo que necesitas suerte. No deberías gastar tu dinero importante en el juego, solo lo que te queda cuando practicas este pasatiempo.

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ankaraxxx
hace 5 meses

La mayoría de los juegos pragmáticos son bastante volátiles, lo que hace que sea más difícil ganar allí.

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hace 5 meses

Volatile = honest way of scamming

Kyami
hace 5 meses

Hobby leads to addiction

Addiction leads to financial ruin

kabcd42
hace 5 meses

Both of your posts sound like you have quite a deep opinion on how it works. Do you care to be more specific by chance?

I also know quite a good saying, though:

"Generalization undermines objectivity, and the absence of objectivity undermines the idea."

I bet we can delve into details, though I'll leave that to you. 🙏

hace 5 meses

Hobby leads to addiction

Addiction leads to financial ruin

hace 5 meses

Strong-minded people are, from my experience, perfectly suitable to have hobbies without this side effect.

I prefer not to tend to simplify everything into a fancy verse. Perhaps you have some live experience worth sharing. Do you, by any means, need some support?

hace 5 meses

HELLO, I AM WRITTEN TO YOU FROM TURKEY. FIRST, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY ENGLISH. I ALSO THINK THE PRAGMATIC GAMES ARE SERIOUSLY FOOLED ME NOW. I BOUGHT 11 FREE HAND SPINS AND LOST 11 HANDS IN A ROW. I THINK THE GAMES WERE INTERFERED AND MANIPULATED. THE SITES I PLAY ON ARE BETNANO AND BETSAT IN TURKEY. THERE ARE INTERVENTIONS IN BOTH SITES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GAME HISTORY ADDRESSES, THE ADDRESS OF ONE IS BETSUDIOS, BASED IN MALTA, AND THE ADDRESS OF ONE IS HIS OWN SERVERS. AS MUCH AS I UNDERSTAND, THESE SERVERS ARE CHEATING WITH 3RD PARTY SOFTWARE. I AM ADDING THE SCREENSHOTS.THIS CANNOT BE CALLED LUCK. I BUY 19 GAMES ON THE BETSAT SITE, 3 GAMES A SMALL WIN, 16 GAMES A FULL LOSS. I BUY 11 GAMES ON THE BETNANO SITE, ALL 11 GAMES ARE LOST. SOMEONE PROVE TO ME THAT THIS IS NORMAL. THIS IS NOT NORMAL IT IS A SCAM

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hace 5 meses

Hmm, the player below you described it well, high volatility means that it is quite possible that you will have a lot of dead spins but if the game hits a big win, it is usually worth it. 

However, it is gambling and with it comes the risk of losing money. You definitely don't need to play with money you can't afford and you should only spend what you don't feel sorry for.

So even if you had a streak like that, it doesn't necessarily mean that the games are rigged. I've seen a lot of bonuses that were bought for like $1000 and got back $50. It's not unusual, so if you can't afford it, definitely don't spend money on playing slots. 

Jaro
hace 5 meses

HELLO JARO, IT IS AN ABNORMAL SITUATION FOR ALL 11 PURCHASED GAMES TO MAKE A LOSS. I THINK IT IS AGAINST THE RTP OF THE GAME. I HAVE NEVER SEEN 11 HANDS IN A SEASON WINNER. IF THE GAME IS PAST, 11 PURCHASES AND 11 GAMES ARE LOST IN A ROW. I DON'T THINK THIS MAKE LOGICAL. I WILL REPORT THIS SITUATION TO THE LICENSING COMPANY AND IGAMING. THIS CAN NEVER BE THE GAME'S WRITTEN RTP AND RETURN TO PLAYER RATE


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Kyami
hace 5 meses

DID YOU SEE THE ONE WHO WON 11 GAMES IN A Row, BROTHER? NO BUT I LOSED 11 GAMES IN A ROW. IF YOU PLAY THIS GAME, HAVE YOU EVER LOST 11 GAMES IN A ROW, EVEN IF YOU MAKE A PROFIT ONCE AGAIN? THERE IS NO VARIATION LIKE THIS, IT IS NOT EARNING HARD, IT IS BEING DECEIVED.











ankaraxxx
hace 5 meses

If you are going to report it then feel free to let me know what result you got and what they told you. 

As for whether I saw someone who won in 11 bonuses, I can't say exactly, but I know that I saw a player who had a profit from 15 bonuses to 10 a couple of times, which is quite a lot. But a week later he had 10 bonuses and he was minus on all of them, so like I said it's gambling. Sometimes you get it right and sometimes it's like you had it. 

It's certainly not pleasant but if you're going to play you have to be prepared for that scenario. 🤷‍♂️😕

Jaro
hace 4 meses

HELLO, I COMPLAINED WITH ONE OF THESE SITES TO THE TER WHO LICENSED THE SITE. THEY SENT AN EMAIL THAT PRAGMATIC PLAY DETERMINES THE RTP RATES OF THE BETTING SITE WITH THEIR GAME HISTORIES AND SHARED MY GAME DATA. IT IS ACTUALLY PROOF OF HOW THEY INTERVENE IN THESE GAMES. THEY HAVE A PANEL AND THERE ARE YOUR EARNING STATISTICS, BUT I NEVER CRIED ABOUT SUCH WINNINGS IN THE GATE OF 1000 GAME THAT HE SHARED. I SENT AN E-MAIL TO THE LICENSING COMPANY THAT THIS IS EVIDENCE AND I AM SENDING THEIR RESPONSE TO YOU.


 Dear Executive,


You have not provided Curaçao eGaming ("CEG") and/or the Player with an update regarding this complaint within seven days of the previous notice. This means that the operator is now in material breach of the IP-agreement with CEG. The operator is now granted three more working days before CEG shall make a preliminary ruling in this matter. This could mean that CEG may decide in favour of the Player.

 


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ankaraxxx
hace 4 meses

Thanks for forwarding me the answer. When did it happen ? At the time you posted here ? I see that the casino probably has a few more days to reply to you and I'm curious how this will all end. Definitely let me know if anything changes, I'm quite interested.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. 🤞

hace 4 meses

Hoy he vuelto a jugar a Big Bass Bonanza y Christmas en Cashwin.com. 11 veces por 1 euro de giros gratis con una ganancia de 146 euros, por lo demás todos los demás por debajo de los 40 euros.

5 veces en 2 euros con una ganancia máxima de 76 euros.

1 vez en 1,20 4 scatters con 2 rondas 27 euros.

Todos los demás giros gratis de 80 y 90 centavos funcionaron exactamente de la misma manera.

Y de hecho todavía hay gente que dice que es un juego de azar y que Pragmatic Play tiene un principio aleatorio legal en funcionamiento.

¡No tienen nada!

De lo contrario, puedes explicar algo así una vez, dos veces, pero no lo entiendo 1000 veces.

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