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Los proveedores están protegidos por las pautas de Visa/MasterCard, parece que las pautas de VISA/MasterCard están por encima de la ley. Como consumidor, estás jodido: los proveedores pueden blanquear dinero casi sin problemas.

En Alemania, los pagos con tarjeta de crédito están especialmente protegidos. Las transacciones autorizadas sólo se reemplazan bajo ciertas condiciones. Los bancos rara vez reembolsan una transacción segura porque el banco es responsable si el oponente gana el contracargo. Por lo tanto, los fondos generalmente no se acreditan o se espera el resultado del contracargo.

Si una transacción no está protegida por 3DS, el comerciante es responsable. Cuando leo que alguien ha autorizado más de 40 transacciones, queda claro por qué los bancos no reaccionan. Verificar y presentar quejas sobre 40 transacciones en el sistema MasterCard es complejo y requiere mucho tiempo.


Los bancos creen que el pago está autorizado; además, la persona ha recibido algo a cambio, aunque en la tarjeta se indique lo contrario. No hay evidencia en forma de facturas, por lo que es imposible iniciar un contracargo. A partir de este momento, todos deberían entender de qué se trata.



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doggoclub19
hace 1 año
seesus

¿Pero por qué motivos quiere decir que le devolverían el dinero? El casino no puede saber que usted es adicto al juego si no se lo ha dicho. Entonces, la siguiente pregunta es: ¿por qué intentaste denunciarlos a la policía? Y, por último, ¿por qué motivos solicitó un reembolso al banco? ¿Qué motivo dio?

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hace 1 año
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It's not about whether you have been addicted to gambling or not. It is a technicality in essence - the merchant is deliberately obscuring a transaction type to be retail when in fact it is a very high risk gambling transaction. This is a direct contravention of the rules set by Mastercard/Visa. It is also grounds for a player to say the merchant is not recognised and ask for a refund.

hace 1 año
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It is also grounds for a player to say the merchant is not recognised and ask for a refund.


However, the transaction was usually verified by the banking app, so the banks take this as recognition of the transaction. If you play at 123 Casino and see something else on the app when confirming, you would have to decline.



hace 1 año
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It is also grounds for a player to say the merchant is not recognised and ask for a refund.


However, the transaction was usually verified by the banking app, so the banks take this as recognition of the transaction. If you play at 123 Casino and see something else on the app when confirming, you would have to decline.



hace 1 año
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Doesn't really matter tbh. If you can show you did not receive anything from the merchant then that's pretty much good enough. Getting banks to understand what is happening is the toughest part.

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Glamors12
hace 1 año
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Have 2 pending with Musicreverb...will let you know how it goes

hace 1 año
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Received this email when questioning goldenbet. Is this lies?


file

2scottjason
hace 1 año
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It's not lies. The third party payment processor is the one that needs to be taken to task. The casino won't give you any refund. You need to see what the amounts have come off as on your statements and find the 'merchant' if they exist, then you can build a case with your bank.

hace 1 año
uses

I have found the merchant on company house which is a photocopy company based in London?


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2scottjason
hace 1 año
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Try and make contact with them mate. I can almost guarantee they won't have a clue, but you can then use that as evidence.

Anonymized847
hace 1 año
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Unfortunately I've looked into and the company exists on paper but has no contact details. I have raised a chargeback with my bank on hope, the company it takes you to on company house is a photocopy company b6 description but with no contact detaila

hace 1 año
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Unfortunately I've looked into and the company exists on paper but has no contact details. I have raised a chargeback with my bank on hope, the company it takes you to on company house is a photocopy company b6 description but with no contact detaila

hace 1 año
uses

Good luck mate, hoping it works. They will see it is clearly not coded as gambling.

Anonymized847
hace 1 año
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Thanks very much, yeah I've sent the what evidence I have of the transactions with photos of the company number etc. to me it looks like a fake company was set up for this specific purpose, not sure if I'm overthinking though haha

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hace 1 año
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Similar to cards, open banking transactions such as Trustly needs and should be processed with specific code, I think for open banking it was PCC 26 or something.

But, as with cards, there is of course ways to bypass this as many casinos will do.



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hace 1 año
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Latest ones I have found are PayOp and PayDo...used by Santeda Group for all sorts of deposits from cards to neosurf vouchers! Will contact both payment providers and see what happens.

Anonymized840
hace 1 año
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I'm on them at the moment and a few weird emails have been received for payment cancellations so will wait and see their final responses.

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Glamors12
hace 1 año
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Just that there was potential payment fraud and they said they would investigate. Now have several automated emails through...but need to wait and see

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