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player0990
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What seems to be happening here is a mixing of different levels of the issue, and that’s where the misunderstanding comes from.

There is a difference between:

  • how a situation feels to the player,
  • what is ethically expected from a casino,
  • and what can actually be established and proven in a complaint process.

The complaint was not rejected because the question was "ill-intentioned" or because player protection is being denied. It was rejected because, based on the information provided, there was no verifiable evidence that the casino prevented a withdrawal or explicitly conditioned account closure on losing the balance. What could be established was that the balance was played and lost.

General statements about how things "cannot work in Spain" are not the same as demonstrating that this is what happened in this specific case. In any complaint procedure, claims have to be supported by concrete facts or documentation, regardless of the country involved.

Regarding account closure: in practice, casinos usually distinguish between a regular account closure and an immediate block due to problem gambling. In urgent cases, an instant block may come with consequences for an active balance. This is not a moral judgment, but a practical and procedural reality, and it exists precisely because health and harm prevention sometimes take priority over funds.

That does not mean the situation is pleasant or easy to accept. It only means that without clear proof that the casino acted unlawfully or misleadingly, there is very limited room for intervention. Asking questions is fair, but disagreement with the outcome does not automatically mean the explanation is invented or generalized.

hace 1 mes
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What seems to be happening here is a mixing of different levels of the issue, and that’s where the misunderstanding comes from.

There is a difference between:

  • how a situation feels to the player,
  • what is ethically expected from a casino,
  • and what can actually be established and proven in a complaint process.

The complaint was not rejected because the question was "ill-intentioned" or because player protection is being denied. It was rejected because, based on the information provided, there was no verifiable evidence that the casino prevented a withdrawal or explicitly conditioned account closure on losing the balance. What could be established was that the balance was played and lost.

General statements about how things "cannot work in Spain" are not the same as demonstrating that this is what happened in this specific case. In any complaint procedure, claims have to be supported by concrete facts or documentation, regardless of the country involved.

Regarding account closure: in practice, casinos usually distinguish between a regular account closure and an immediate block due to problem gambling. In urgent cases, an instant block may come with consequences for an active balance. This is not a moral judgment, but a practical and procedural reality, and it exists precisely because health and harm prevention sometimes take priority over funds.

That does not mean the situation is pleasant or easy to accept. It only means that without clear proof that the casino acted unlawfully or misleadingly, there is very limited room for intervention. Asking questions is fair, but disagreement with the outcome does not automatically mean the explanation is invented or generalized.

hace 1 mes
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Ya que yo tenga el chat donde dicen claramente que si cierro la cuenta pierdo mi saldo , no es una prueba clara no ?


yo solicito un cierre y me mienten diciendo que pierdo el saldo , en España eso es ilegal , así lo dice en sus reglas .


que para vosotros no sea suficiente pues mira … ya se ve a quien queréis defender.


player0990
hace 1 mes
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Hello, perhaps we misunderstand each other. Let's put aside what is or is not legal in Spain, because this casino is not licensed in Spain, as far as I can tell. Can you maybe confirm that?

"Since I have the chat where they clearly say that if I close the account I lose my balance, isn't that clear proof?"

Proof is unnecessary because the casino rules state the voidance, correct? I was trying to explain that, from a practical standpoint, there are two options:

1) The player is okay and can wait for the payout to close the account afterwards.

2) If the player is not okay and is experiencing gambling issues, the account must be closed immediately, regardless of the remaining balance. Health and preventing further losses take priority over the account balance.

It is inconvenient, yet the addicted player is very likely to lose the money anyway and thus should be restricted from entering the site immediately. There is no middle ground.

Thus, if you lose the balance, there is sadly no space for confronting the casino. This is basically why my colleagues rejected your complaint request, I reckon.

In any case, I suggest you only play in casinos that are licensed in your jurisdiction. If you do so, you may then discuss the approach to problem gambling at casinos with your national license provider or lawyer.


hace 1 mes
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Hello, perhaps we misunderstand each other. Let's put aside what is or is not legal in Spain, because this casino is not licensed in Spain, as far as I can tell. Can you maybe confirm that?

"Since I have the chat where they clearly say that if I close the account I lose my balance, isn't that clear proof?"

Proof is unnecessary because the casino rules state the voidance, correct? I was trying to explain that, from a practical standpoint, there are two options:

1) The player is okay and can wait for the payout to close the account afterwards.

2) If the player is not okay and is experiencing gambling issues, the account must be closed immediately, regardless of the remaining balance. Health and preventing further losses take priority over the account balance.

It is inconvenient, yet the addicted player is very likely to lose the money anyway and thus should be restricted from entering the site immediately. There is no middle ground.

Thus, if you lose the balance, there is sadly no space for confronting the casino. This is basically why my colleagues rejected your complaint request, I reckon.

In any case, I suggest you only play in casinos that are licensed in your jurisdiction. If you do so, you may then discuss the approach to problem gambling at casinos with your national license provider or lawyer.


hace 1 mes
esus

Vamos a ver claro que tiene licencia en España , y como voy a cerrar mi cuenta si pierdo todo el saldo ?


yo solicito un cierre y me mienten con la pérdida de saldo , según las reglas a las que está adherido este casino y su operador eso es ilegal

player0990
hace 1 mes
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Hello, I'll address just the facts here, if you don't mind.

As suggested, the account closure request must always be clearly composed and reflect one of those two options clearly.

Simply put: you have to choose the more suitable from both options.

1) If you just want to close the account, withdraw all funds and then ask for the account closure.

2) If you are at risk of problem gambling and feel like losing control, ask for a permanent account closure due to gambling issues. Your account will be closed as soon as possible, yet the balance may be voided. The point of the second option is to prevent struggling players from further harm.

Let me know how it went with DGOJ, please.


hace 1 mes
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Hello, I'll address just the facts here, if you don't mind.

As suggested, the account closure request must always be clearly composed and reflect one of those two options clearly.

Simply put: you have to choose the more suitable from both options.

1) If you just want to close the account, withdraw all funds and then ask for the account closure.

2) If you are at risk of problem gambling and feel like losing control, ask for a permanent account closure due to gambling issues. Your account will be closed as soon as possible, yet the balance may be voided. The point of the second option is to prevent struggling players from further harm.

Let me know how it went with DGOJ, please.


hace 1 mes
esus

Gracias por su respuesta.


Es necesario matizar varios puntos esenciales desde el marco normativo español, que es el aplicable en este caso, ya que el operador está inscrito en los registros de la Dirección General de Ordenación del Juego (DGOJ) y, por tanto, sujeto a la normativa española de juego y protección del jugador.


En España, el operador tiene obligaciones legales específicas, entre otras:


Deber de información veraz, clara y no engañosa al jugador.

Deber de protección activa del jugador cuando este solicita medidas de cierre o limitación.

Prohibición de inducir al error sobre las consecuencias económicas de ejercer derechos de protección.

Deber de ofrecer alternativas reales y correctas para proteger el saldo cuando el jugador manifiesta una voluntad clara de cierre o restricción.



En mi caso, el agente del operador facilitó información objetivamente incorrecta, afirmando que el cierre de la cuenta implicaba la pérdida del saldo disponible. Esta afirmación no es conforme a la normativa española y fue determinante para que no pudiera ejercer en ese momento ninguna medida eficaz de protección del saldo.


El núcleo del problema no es si posteriormente se jugó el saldo ni si existían distintos "tipos" de cierre, sino que:


El operador informó de forma errónea sobre las consecuencias del cierre.

Esa información impidió la adopción de una decisión protectora, dejando el saldo expuesto.

La carga de informar correctamente recae exclusivamente en el operador, no en el jugador.



Asimismo, conviene señalar que la DGOJ ha sancionado en múltiples ocasiones a operadores por conductas consistentes en deficiencias informativas, incumplimientos en materia de juego responsable y falta de protección efectiva del jugador en situaciones análogas.


En la práctica regulatoria española, no es infrecuente que, antes de la imposición de sanciones, los operadores opten por soluciones compensatorias o acuerdos con el jugador cuando se constata una mala praxis, precisamente para mitigar el impacto sancionador y reputacional.


Mi reclamación no se basa en una confiscación posterior del saldo, sino en la privación del ejercicio de un derecho de protección por mala praxis informativa, cuestión expresamente regulada y sancionable en España.


Por ese motivo, el asunto se encuentra actualmente en tramitación ante la autoridad reguladora competente (DGOJ).


player0990
hace 1 mes
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Sure, it's beneficial to discuss that with the licensing authority. Please share any progress made.

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