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Refundnow
hace 1 año
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Due to breaching the rules again, I'm banning your account.

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Jaro
hace 1 año
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Hola, ¿hay alguna posibilidad de que puedas revelar estos casinos? Tengo una fuerte sospecha de qué casinos...

si tienen razón y piensan que estamos cometiendo un delito ¿por qué tienen miedo e incluso contactan a mantenimiento para eliminar este hilo?. Esta cadena les sería una lotería, aquí estamos todos los que hemos cometido un "delito" según ellos, nos demandarían y recibirían una indemnización… ¿no?

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Refundnow
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Pareces una persona muy confundida, cuídate y que tengas un buen día. ☀️👌

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Refundnow
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👋

Anonymized603
hace 1 año
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Aclaremos esto.

-Ponerse en contacto con pasarelas de pago, operadores de pago, casinos y solicitar un reembolso debido a un código MCC incorrecto y al lavado de transacciones NO es ilegal. Pueden simplemente declarar que creen que uno está equivocado y no devolver nada.

- Contactar con los mismos actores y solicitar un reembolso por un motivo inventado, por ejemplo que no has recibido el dinero, puede ser un intento de fraude.

-Amenazar a cualquier actor con violencia, acoso, etc. puede ser ilegal

-Hacer una queja con la tarjeta a su banco y no ser honesto acerca de recibir el dinero para los juegos de casino es un intento de fraude, es decir, ilegal.

-Hacer una queja de tarjeta a tu banco y ser honesto de que fue al casino no es ilegal. Sin embargo, el banco puede optar por congelar sus cuentas (temporalmente) o cancelar su cuenta como cliente si lo considera un cliente de alto riesgo.

No es necesario cerrar el hilo. La pregunta básica no está mal. Es un área gris con respecto a qué tan legal o no es el "lavado de transacciones" y el uso de códigos MCC incorrectos; no es en absoluto las políticas de Mastercard y ViSA, pero legalmente es más bien un área gris. Probablemente esta sea la razón por la que algunos optan por pagar y otros no.

Mientras uno se adhiera a esto y se adhiera a la verdad, no se le puede condenar por ningún delito. Por otro lado, también he advertido varias veces en el pasado que es un intento de fraude mentir/ocultar la verdad a su banco si presenta una queja sobre su tarjeta. Incluso si envía un correo electrónico a estas empresas y miente y, por ejemplo, dice que no ha recibido el depósito del casino, posiblemente podría tratarse de un fraude. Sin embargo, me resulta muy difícil entender que consideren que vale la pena iniciar un costoso proceso legal contra cualquier individuo por sumas tan pequeñas.

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I totally agree, to be honest. There is a simpler way to avoid this. Don't play at Curacao or don't play at all, if you are not willing to take the winning or losing risk.

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I think you meant don't play at any unlicensed casino 🙂, which in general means no MGA, no Estonia or no Curacao or any other fake jurisdiction. Just because they say they have a license, doesn't mean it's a license. A license for what? Scamming people? Processing payments incorrectly?

This fraud is in any jurisdiction with fake international licenses. The fraud don't exist in, for example, the Swedish licensed casinos or the UK licensed casinos. Don't play at all if you are in a country that doesn't have a proper national license. We all know we're just giving away money to money launderers and tax avoiders by doing this. It's similar to buying drugs from criminals. It leads to violence, more crime etc etc.

I would say it's important to remember this in the long run.




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Digikey, Budapest. (digikeyboard.com) refunded and emailed me with this explanation: they dont seem to understand exactly what is happening.


file


Also feastingmen.com / amegagame.com refunded today.


So don't let yourselves be threatened. it is obvious that the Casinos are taking advantage of some companies here and it is they who are doing the wrong thing.

hace 1 año
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I think it been mentioned before, a lot of the merchants, (except the obvious Estonian shell companies), are unaware of the issue. They are just getting used as much as we are getting used by dubious suspicious payment processors/Gateways/aquiring banks that is the culprit.

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Anonymized609 ha borrado el mensaje
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Sweden or no Sweden, easy to spoof your location or account here too.

But so many obvious accounts trying to threaten us, saying we will be sued etc etc

How would they sue us using a casino guru username, lol.

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I would advise every single person to leave the thread. All financial institutions are aware of this now and are actively saving copies of people’s posts for their own investigations.


Casino Guru need to close this thread down immediately

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lol, they will sue my casino.guru username

all financial instutitions, haha, like they would bother.

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I uploaded the documents but they were removed!!


I haven’t been paid anything to silence people. I was passing on the message I received which clearly shows that this thread is illegal.


some of you claim to not care but I promise you will if they contact you directly.

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How would they contact me directly?


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Basically admitting on here to gambling but then claiming to not receive goods is an illegal offence. They are saying that we are capitalising on both playing with the funds and then getting money back. Also by us getting other people involved it makes it more serious as it’s a fraudulent scheme.


this is what they are telling me. I perfectly understand people wanting to keep their posts on here but it’s not worth it for me to do so receiving the threat.



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who is telling you? Your Russian overlords?

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Sounds to me like this thread is working. Keep fighting!

Glamors12
hace 1 año
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¿Seguramente Quickbit no ha devuelto nada? De todos modos, no he leído a nadie que haya recibido un reembolso de ellos 😕

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Hola, ¿hay alguna posibilidad de que puedas revelar estos casinos? Tengo una fuerte sospecha de qué casinos...

si tienen razón y piensan que estamos cometiendo un delito ¿por qué tienen miedo e incluso contactan a mantenimiento para eliminar este hilo?. Esta cadena les sería una lotería, aquí estamos todos los que hemos cometido un "delito" según ellos, nos demandarían y recibirían una indemnización… ¿no?

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We don't want to post what casinos are involved yet, because we are waiting to find out if they want to open a discussion with us. So we give them a few more days to get in touch.

Jaro
hace 1 año
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the casinos won't sue anybody for sure, it's just kinda tactic, so you stop emailing them

on the other hand, I guess a good half of guys here try in fact dispute funds for the services they received and spent, I tried as well.

asking for a refund in this case directly from providers/casinos won't get you into legal trouble but if you raise it to the bank/other instances on a constant basis - that could be a matter lol

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Glamors12 ha borrado el mensaje
hace 1 año
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Been following this thread for a while as I also noticed this on my bank statement and thought I'd recover some of my funds at least as I was getting fed up with it all.. I was also contacted yesterday by my bank directly after I disputed my transactions and have been told that they have noticed ''numerous clients disputing multiple transactions which were completed via 3d secure'' all claiming the same story behind their disputes and said that the matter is being investigated by the bank and my bank account is now part of the investigation WHICH IS NUTS!!! Has anyone else been contacted about this?!?! What is going to happen now??

palma
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¿Qué explicación diste/por qué motivos solicitaste una reclamación de tarjeta?



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palma
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Es imposible saberlo si no nos dice el fundamento sobre el cual presentó la queja. ¿Qué le escribiste al banco cuando hiciste la denuncia?

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palma
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You don't need to worry. An investigation is always conducted. Such an investigation is necessary. It is these investigations that lead authorities and banks to take action. An investigation does not mean that you are a suspect; it is about understanding what happened and how it happened. 


Remember that we are suffering from gambling addiction, and these gambling companies exploit us because of it. They allow us to deposit money, but when it comes to withdrawals, they delay the process, citing minor rule violations. They demand an array of documents, all to exploit the customer's addiction and wait until the money is gambled away, only to then offer the customer a bonus to deposit even more money.


These casinos claim to offer a service. However, a service is not just letting customers waste their money on a slot machine. A service from a gambling company should include safe gambling practices, secure payments, and responsibility towards the customer's well-being, including their financial situation. 


I find it wonderful that the banks are finally taking notice. I encourage everyone to highlight these issues.



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