Querida Naranja,
Gracias por su detallada respuesta y por proporcionar las capturas de pantalla adicionales. Entendemos lo decepcionante que debe ser esta situación, especialmente después de ganar un premio tan significativo y completar todos los requisitos de apuesta.
Después de revisar cuidadosamente toda la información que compartió, lamentablemente debemos concluir que el casino parece haber actuado de acuerdo con sus términos de bonificación :
Es posible limitar el uso de JUEGOS DE BONIFICACIÓN para ciertos juegos que incluyen un jackpot (jackpot progresivo o local), ya sea para esos juegos en general o solo para ganar el jackpot del juego en cuestión.
19. El importe máximo que el participante recibe en su cuenta de juego está limitado a 150.000 denares, independientemente del tamaño del importe recibido a través de un juego con bono o a través de un juego de bono e independientemente de la acreditación del saldo del bono.
Confirmaste que ganaste el bote mientras un bono de depósito estaba activo. En estos casos, todas las ganancias generadas durante el juego de bonificación, independientemente de si provienen de giros regulares o de un bote progresivo o de software, se consideran ganancias de bonificación. Esto significa que siguen sujetas a las condiciones del bono, incluyendo los límites máximos de conversión y retiro.
Si bien entendemos su argumento de que un premio mayor es financiado por el proveedor y se percibe diferente a una ganancia estándar, desde un punto de vista técnico y contractual, el factor decisivo es que la ganancia se produjo durante el juego de bonificación activo. Al jugar con un bono, los jugadores aceptan que todas las ganancias resultantes se rigen por los términos del bono.
Estamos de acuerdo en que puede parecer injusto, sobre todo porque el sistema permitía apostar el bote completo y solo aplicaba el límite una vez completado el requisito de apuesta. Sin embargo, este mecanismo es común en muchos casinos online: el saldo del bono puede superar el límite máximo de conversión durante el juego, pero el límite se aplica al momento de la conversión a dinero real.
Con base en la evidencia disponible y el hecho de que el premio mayor se ganó durante el juego de bonificación activo, no vemos motivos para exigir al casino que pague el monto total más allá del límite máximo de conversión de bonificación establecido.
Entendemos que este no es el resultado que esperaba y lamentamos no poder ayudarle más en este caso. Si decide jugar con bonos en el futuro, le recomendamos encarecidamente que revise cuidadosamente los límites máximos de conversión/retiro con antelación, especialmente al jugar juegos de alta varianza o con jackpot.
Atentamente
Verónica
Dear Orange,
Thank you for your detailed reply and for providing the additional screenshots. We truly understand how disappointing this situation must feel, especially after hitting such a significant jackpot amount and completing the full wagering requirement.
After carefully reviewing all the information you shared, we unfortunately have to conclude that the casino appears to have acted in line with its bonus terms :
It is possible to limit the use of BONUS GAMES for certain games that include a jackpot (progressive or local jackpot), either for those games in general or only for winning the jackpot of the relevant game.
19. The maximum amount that the participant receives on his/her gaming account is limited to 150,000 denars, regardless of the size of the amount received through a game with a bonus or through a bonus game and regardless of the crediting of the bonus balance.
You confirmed that the jackpot was won while a deposit bonus was active. In such cases, all winnings generated during bonus play – regardless of whether they come from regular spins or from a software/progressive jackpot – are typically treated as bonus winnings. This means they remain subject to the bonus conditions, including any maximum conversion or maximum withdrawal limits.
While we understand your argument that a jackpot is funded by the provider and feels different from a standard win, from a technical and contractual standpoint, the decisive factor is that the win occurred during active bonus play. When playing with a bonus, players accept that all resulting winnings are governed by the bonus terms.
We agree that it may feel unfair, especially since the system allowed the full jackpot amount to be wagered and only applied the cap after completion of wagering. However, this mechanism is common in many online casinos – the bonus balance can grow beyond the maximum conversion limit during play, but the cap is applied at the moment of conversion to real money.
Based on the available evidence and the fact that the jackpot was won during active bonus play, we do not see grounds to require the casino to pay the full amount beyond the stated maximum bonus conversion limit.
We understand this is not the outcome you were hoping for, and we are truly sorry we cannot be of more help in this case. If you decide to play with bonuses in the future, we strongly recommend carefully reviewing the maximum conversion/withdrawal limits beforehand, especially when playing high-variance or jackpot games.
Best regards
Veronica
Dear Orange,
Thank you for your detailed reply and for providing the additional screenshots. We truly understand how disappointing this situation must feel, especially after hitting such a significant jackpot amount and completing the full wagering requirement.
After carefully reviewing all the information you shared, we unfortunately have to conclude that the casino appears to have acted in line with its bonus terms:
Можно е да се ограничи употребата на БОНУС ИГРИ за одредени игри во кои е вклучен џек пот (прогресивен или локален џекпот), така за тие игри во општо или само за освојување на џек потот на соодветната игра.
19. Максималниот износ што учесникот го добива на својота сметка за играње е ограничен на 150 000 денари, независно од големината на добиениот износ преку игра со бонус или преку бонус игра и независно од кредитирањето на бонус-балансот.
You confirmed that the jackpot was won while a deposit bonus was active. In such cases, all winnings generated during bonus play – regardless of whether they come from regular spins or from a software/progressive jackpot – are typically treated as bonus winnings. This means they remain subject to the bonus conditions, including any maximum conversion or maximum withdrawal limits.
While we understand your argument that a jackpot is funded by the provider and feels different from a standard win, from a technical and contractual standpoint, the decisive factor is that the win occurred during active bonus play. When playing with a bonus, players accept that all resulting winnings are governed by the bonus terms.
We agree that it may feel unfair, especially since the system allowed the full jackpot amount to be wagered and only applied the cap after completion of wagering. However, this mechanism is common in many online casinos – the bonus balance can grow beyond the maximum conversion limit during play, but the cap is applied at the moment of conversion to real money.
Based on the available evidence and the fact that the jackpot was won during active bonus play, we do not see grounds to require the casino to pay the full amount beyond the stated maximum bonus conversion limit.
We understand this is not the outcome you were hoping for, and we are truly sorry we cannot be of more help in this case. If you decide to play with bonuses in the future, we strongly recommend carefully reviewing the maximum conversion/withdrawal limits beforehand, especially when playing high-variance or jackpot games.
Best regards
Veronika
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