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Llevo un tiempo jugando y lo estoy haciendo

Busque y he visto temas aquí en el foro sobre el modo demo y el modo real.

Pero quería saber si es verdad. He realizado varias pruebas en los ciclos dentro de un ID (su número de identificación dentro del casino), por lo que cada uno tiene su propio historial y ciclos de RNG (generación de números aleatorios), pero lo que noté son los activadores de RNG. que son retención (el juego te quita) promedio (te devuelve el mismo valor) distribución (te paga más valor) son los mismos para el modo relajación y real

Qué cambia y por qué uno juega con dinero real y otro no

Sabiendo esto, si juegas en modo demo dentro del casino

Toma la tragamonedas, comienza el juego y juega hasta obtener el bono y ganar.

Después de pasar al modo real empiezas a perder y como después de un bono (premio) existe la posibilidad de una retención (una devolución del premio), es por eso que perdemos

Si el ciclo de disparo de rng es el mismo

Si ingresamos a la demo dentro del casino y el ciclo está en un ciclo de retención (premios bajos o sin ganancias), entonces ingresas al modo real, sigue siendo malo.

Es por eso que muchos casinos no ofrecen el modo de demostración en sus tragamonedas.


Si está presente, pruebe y publique sus experiencias aquí y brinde más información sobre el tema si es cierto para usted.

aquí en todas las pruebas se ha demostrado que incluso esto

Claramente tenemos ciclos que cambian todo el tiempo.

Y proveedores que trabajan con diferentes ciclos

Sin embargo, ese me parece ser el caso.

Sin mencionar que los proveedores ejecutan ciclos de RNG 24 veces al día, que cambian según cada ID y las ganancias de cada tragamonedas jugada. Si gana mucho en esa tragamonedas, es posible que deba devolverlo.

más para ella más


¿La demostración te ayuda a ver en qué ciclo se encuentra la ranura?


publica tus experiencias


¿Y qué opinas de que los ciclos de RNG en el modo demo y real sean iguales?


Editado por el autor hace 1 año
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Olzixx
hace 1 año

Hi, quite an interesting view and observation I would say. But if you want to know or see more on this topic, I'm adding a thread here, where players also talk about games in the demo version: https://casino.guru/forum/general-gambling-discussion/games-on-demo

I also thought this slot guide might be useful for this topic: https://casino.guru/how-slot-machines-work-math , so I'll post it here as well.

Anyway, I hope you will start a debate with players and exchange your opinions and experiences. It can be quite beneficial.  

hace 1 año

It's depending which service provider you are playing. Some service provider is sharing the rng together especially those slots having share lucky draw or progressive jackpot. You can see that the history or trace record on your bet is jumping sequence. No matter you play turbo or slow spin. The trace will distribute to the person they want. Some trace record are keep in *revive* reservation, when you loss really bad and this revive trace ID will inject to your account and you will hit the revive spin to hit bonus or mini jackpot and so on. Honestly speaking its not random. There are some player try to read the betting history to see whether the current map is retention map or reviving map. Back to your point, I think the volatility of demo is different than real money. Demo is hard to play as their start to play for fun amount is too big. But playing real game, let say you deposit 1000 and when you play till left 100 and your account will triggered reviving mode, this is why sometime you will hit bonus on the last 1 or 2 hands easily. I call it reviving or teasing feature. Same thing sometime when you just deposited money and play few hand and already hit bonus but the result always no good payout. I believe they are capturing your money deposit and your wagering turnover. So demo is actually to let you see the payout trend but you can't copy the move from demo to real money. You will easily loss badly.

ChanMIB
hace 1 año

Gracias por tu luz y un punto más en mi estudio, gracias por tu conocimiento y ayudarme cada vez más en mis estudios sobre los disparos de RNG de cada proveedor, profundizaré en este punto específico en el revival que no lo hice. saber, estudiaré más y publicaré pronto más información aquí en el tema

Sobre los disparos rng en la demo que muchas veces me parece que comparten información y cambian el juego en modo real gracias por las respuestas

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Olzixx
hace 1 año

Exploring RNG shots in demos versus real gameplay does raise some intriguing points. Keep digging—I'm curious to see what you uncover in your further research.

hace 1 año

You can't dig too much info when you're playing demo, because you can't get the record. You can find your record in real time playing but don't do it. You cant find much on RNG, but when you play real money. The slot variance or your win/loss variance is actually very close to RTP, hit frequent will higher when you just start playing. Example domination 1 cent and $1 per spin, you will easily get a comeback when you loss more than $100, once you comeback with maybe win $200, then your slot will become very tight after all, you will easily loss $500. and you will hard to come back anymore until you change domination to 5cent or $2 per spin, your slot will become very loose again and easily to win. This is casino trick and want you to bet bigger and bigger. When revival mode triggered, the coming spin after the revival is horrible, you can get a lot dead spins. This is why the RNG is not random. We can't beat them, the RTP is around 95% and to beat or get jackpot chances is very less. Unless you cheating.

Editado por el autor hace 1 año
hace 1 año

The slot RNG is design to make you feel like the slot has hope, when you just start to play, the RTP may be 200%, most of the new account will easily win money. Once you win enough and addicted, they will put your account in a different server with RTP is 95%, they can easily move your account to different server by saying your rebate package.

ChanMIB
hace 1 año

It sounds like you've got some insights into how the gaming system might work! There's definitely a lot of speculation about RNG and slot variance. It's fascinating to consider these patterns, but it's crucial to remember that casinos are designed to have an edge. While some strategies might seem to work temporarily, in the long run, the odds are stacked in favor of the house. Staying mindful of responsible gaming and enjoying the experience is key!

hace 1 año

Lo que Chanb dijo es correcto sobre las tomas de motos, la historia y la forma en que funciona la tragamonedas rtp, vale la pena recordar que los proveedores menos justos y los proveedores más justos son diferentes tipos de programación rpt y estamos buscando tragamonedas que sean más justas y que podamos comprender mejor cómo funciona para reducir las pérdidas

Y realmente es como si Chanmib entendiera la estrategia del casino y el RTP de los modos demo y real y esto puede ayudarnos a entender mejor las tragamonedas y, como dijo Jasmine, la casa siempre tiene la ventaja a largo plazo, pero sabiendo esto tenemos que tener una mejor posicionamiento para romper un poco la línea de juego

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hace 1 año

The slot RNG is design to make you feel like the slot has hope, when you just start to play, the RTP may be 200%, most of the new account will easily win money. Once you win enough and addicted, they will put your account in a different server with RTP is 95%, they can easily move your account to different server by saying your rebate package.

hace 1 año

I don't agree with this. I worked in an online casino for more than 4 years and we've never done this to players. Why? Because it wasn't really necessary. There will always come sessions when you're luckier and keep winning, but that's just temporary. Just in case you wouldn't be lucky at the beginning, you usually get the welcome bonuses that allow you to play longer in order to keep playing until you hit the luckier period.

That's basically it. Then players claim that when they finally started winning, someone started watching them in the casino and made them lose. That's not how it works. Every lucky period is simply followed by an unlucky one since you can't be lucky forever.

Olzixx
hace 1 año

I'd say the most important part is to be aware of the RTP of any game you play. When the casino doesn't display the RTP, it's a red flag. There are providers that legally allow casinos to adjust the RTP so players need to be aware of it as well and check the RTPs regularly. Especially when you find a casino that decreased the RTP on a certain game, it's highly probable they did it on many other games as well.

hace 1 año


De hecho, los juegos de demostración dentro del casino siguen el mismo RTP que el juego de casino Wolf Gold, si tienes el 95,00% en el juego real en la demostración también estará ahí y notarás que la volatilidad es la misma, esto ayuda. mucho para determinar cómo es el juego dentro del casino

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Olzixx
hace 1 año

Checking the RTP in advance is a smart step! Another good option is to adjust your betting style to the aforementioned volatility.

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Daniel
hace 11 meses

I'm very sure that any online casino can complain to service provider. The service provider will do something. When players win too much or loss too much, the server will go to maintenance very soon. What they will do is to adjust something, they can just simply shutdown the servers for days. After that, the game will become extremely hard to play. until the next maintenance again. I personally don't think RTP is accurate what if a player who start with $1000 with $10 per spin loss all, and next player who bet in $1 per spin and won $95 and both players average rtp add up will become 95%. and casino still win $905. in math, the rtp is still 95%. I believe all the casino has individual threhold for every players. example: when player deposit 100, and he played and will very easy to win to in maybe the first 50 spons and hit bonus and pay $600 or even $1000. start to let player enjoy the game. when player deposit 1000 and start to loss till left 100, the machine will become loose and easily hit "come back" feature, during this stage you may easily hit bonus and maybe you can easily win back like $200 or $300, the machine will know you will continue to play because they know you also lose too much and they just want to keeping letting you to play. So....RTP is just a number, when you lose a lot and bet smaller you will easily win, the RTP will maybe make it become back 95%. This is from my experience. my 50k losing experience. No matter which game you go, the RTP account is link with you. It's won't say if I just won't a big jackpot on game A, you change to game B will start fresh again, I don't think so, I was winning like 70k on Gate of Olympus bonus buy, my account was force logout. when I re login and played other games, all the games are really bad, I waited for days and play others games, the result still same until I loss all back. Then only the machine back to normal. This is from my experience.

Editado por el autor hace 11 meses
hace 11 meses

Chanb, ¿has notado algo sobre los ciclos de rng en 10 rondas, 50 rondas y 100 rondas, 150 rondas y 200 así sucesivamente, que son diferentes según la ranura y el proveedor?

Con cada apuesta hay ciclos que se repiten y se transforman en ciclos que pagan, ciclos que regresan y ciclos que te quitan el bankroll.


Estoy probando ciclos de 10 rondas.

Y ha funcionado en algunos juegos.

Las tragamonedas siempre cambian el juego en 10 giros y es para averiguar el bono promedio para cada juego

El juego y las ganancias no son aleatorios.

Y el juego tiene un calendario a seguir más

El generador determina ganancias aleatorias.

Más ciclos y quién hará la ranura por ciclo totalmente seguro de acuerdo con su identificación y ganancias y pérdidas.


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hace 11 meses

Hmm... it's actually depend on your wallet size and the speed of your wallet velocity and your turnover or they call ot wages Example you have $1000, you spin at $5 per spin for 10 auto spin with normal speed. if your wages is low or new account, you hardly hit bonus and the RNG is return mode. For pragmatic it's work like this. But for hacksaw or nolimicity, you can hit big just in few low value spin like maybe $2 or $4 spin. You can hit bonus and bonus is good. But after all if you continue play and you hardly to go into bonus. For pragmatic, they got revivie mode meaning when you left $100 left and suddenly you spin $5 per spin, you will RNG will become very easy to hit scatter to tease you. and if you lucky you will hit bonus when you still got around $50 left and you will hit big. Usually I played nolimitcity, I put 250 auto spin with turbo mode and easily hit bonus. If I spin 10 auto mode normal spin, 50 auto spin it's hard to get into bonus. For pragmatic, the auto spin is 50, and I always go for normal spin first. after loss all, I tried to wait a while until the system update my history, I done another 50 spin with turbo mode, it's easy to get into bonus. But overall I would say is, when you loss very bad, you can wait a while and played turbo mode in 50 spins. you will easily hit bonus. It's not applicable for those bonanza, megaway, gate of olympus and starlight.

for me, 50 spin is the best. I ever try every game just played 10 spins, I ever get 4 bonus out of 15 games. But still losing money in the end. Guess what, these 4 bonuses payout is bad. I tried many rounds until proven. It's impossible you just win big in first few spins. You need to lose a lot only the big bonus will come. So this is why, this is not random.

ChanMIB
hace 11 meses

Gracias por tu experiencia, probaré algunas de las cosas que dijiste.

Gracias por su atención por responder algunas cosas.

Lo que dijiste sobre los giros automáticos y los giros normales, incluso en el pragmático, lo voy a probar para mejorar mi juego y poner más experiencia aquí.

Gracias hermano

Pero estudiaré aquí, gracias por ayudar, creo que así llegaremos más lejos, me di cuenta de que


pragmatic realmente ciclos de 50 y 50 en varias rondas de apuestas en el turbo generan bonos con premios altos mientras que nosotros hacemos ciclos de 10 en 10 cambiando apuestas El bono abierto no paga ni siquiera en el mismo turbo


y realmente parece que el juego te devuelve lo que apostaste más el RTP del ejemplo de devolución.

Como si apostaras 100 con un RTP del 95% y el 95 es el RTP del 95% de la apuesta de 100.

Da un premio de 195 contando el 95% del RTP, este premio base, aun sabiendo que hay aleatoriedad en el premio, se mantiene en este promedio



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hace 11 meses

I'm very sure that any online casino can complain to service provider. The service provider will do something. When players win too much or loss too much, the server will go to maintenance very soon. What they will do is to adjust something, they can just simply shutdown the servers for days. After that, the game will become extremely hard to play. until the next maintenance again. I personally don't think RTP is accurate what if a player who start with $1000 with $10 per spin loss all, and next player who bet in $1 per spin and won $95 and both players average rtp add up will become 95%. and casino still win $905. in math, the rtp is still 95%. I believe all the casino has individual threhold for every players. example: when player deposit 100, and he played and will very easy to win to in maybe the first 50 spons and hit bonus and pay $600 or even $1000. start to let player enjoy the game. when player deposit 1000 and start to loss till left 100, the machine will become loose and easily hit "come back" feature, during this stage you may easily hit bonus and maybe you can easily win back like $200 or $300, the machine will know you will continue to play because they know you also lose too much and they just want to keeping letting you to play. So....RTP is just a number, when you lose a lot and bet smaller you will easily win, the RTP will maybe make it become back 95%. This is from my experience. my 50k losing experience. No matter which game you go, the RTP account is link with you. It's won't say if I just won't a big jackpot on game A, you change to game B will start fresh again, I don't think so, I was winning like 70k on Gate of Olympus bonus buy, my account was force logout. when I re login and played other games, all the games are really bad, I waited for days and play others games, the result still same until I loss all back. Then only the machine back to normal. This is from my experience.

hace 11 meses

If you are truly convinced about this, I bet you should stop playing at online casinos. Casinos are not monitoring each game session and surely do not notify their game provider when someone hits the winning session to lower other chances for the win. 🤷‍♀️

Editado por el autor hace 11 meses
hace 11 meses

Hmm... it's actually depend on your wallet size and the speed of your wallet velocity and your turnover or they call ot wages Example you have $1000, you spin at $5 per spin for 10 auto spin with normal speed. if your wages is low or new account, you hardly hit bonus and the RNG is return mode. For pragmatic it's work like this. But for hacksaw or nolimicity, you can hit big just in few low value spin like maybe $2 or $4 spin. You can hit bonus and bonus is good. But after all if you continue play and you hardly to go into bonus. For pragmatic, they got revivie mode meaning when you left $100 left and suddenly you spin $5 per spin, you will RNG will become very easy to hit scatter to tease you. and if you lucky you will hit bonus when you still got around $50 left and you will hit big. Usually I played nolimitcity, I put 250 auto spin with turbo mode and easily hit bonus. If I spin 10 auto mode normal spin, 50 auto spin it's hard to get into bonus. For pragmatic, the auto spin is 50, and I always go for normal spin first. after loss all, I tried to wait a while until the system update my history, I done another 50 spin with turbo mode, it's easy to get into bonus. But overall I would say is, when you loss very bad, you can wait a while and played turbo mode in 50 spins. you will easily hit bonus. It's not applicable for those bonanza, megaway, gate of olympus and starlight.

for me, 50 spin is the best. I ever try every game just played 10 spins, I ever get 4 bonus out of 15 games. But still losing money in the end. Guess what, these 4 bonuses payout is bad. I tried many rounds until proven. It's impossible you just win big in first few spins. You need to lose a lot only the big bonus will come. So this is why, this is not random.

hace 11 meses

What you described sounds more associated with certain games, but surely not for each game provider in general. What about the slot's RTP and volatility? No consideration? It does not feel right to me.

Consider this post, if you don't mind.


Radka
hace 11 meses

Sí, así es, cada proveedor de tragamonedas tiene diferentes formas de RTP y RNG y diferentes ciclos de pago y distribución.

Pero estudiar cada uno requiere tiempo y dinero, más aún porque hay muchos proveedores diferentes y tragamonedas con diferentes mecánicas, como drop cash, ruleta y otras.

Pero logré estudiar los mejores y es de ayuda para la mayoría de los jugadores, ya que en los posts Assima ve la enorme diferencia en los ciclos de juego de un proveedor a otro porque cada uno usa una programación diferente y cálculos matemáticos diferentes.

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