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We just released a new video about how slots work. Tell us what you think!

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hace 4 años

Hello everyone.

We are always trying to spread knowledge casino games. First, we launched a video about the mathematics of games of chance (watch it on YouTube if you haven't already). Now, we focused specifically on slot machines and how they work.

We hope this video will help inexperienced players understand how slots work and why some things they may believe are just myths. And hopefully even experienced slot players will find out something they didn't know before.

Any feedback is appreciated. Leave it either here or in a comment directly on YouTube.

So, here is the new video:


Editado por el autor hace 4 años
hace 4 años

Great video! I like the old man and animations, this is a start i hope ,of some video series about slots, casinos and regulations.. great job

I have also couple questions

1.Providers control slots(winnings,loss,rtp), what about the fact that only players playing big hand can win jackpot or have much better chance(mentioned earlier) what is a math behind that if all spins are random?


2.What is with casinos players rank,where every casino have insight of players transaction, every play, profit they made on it.For example(i personally experience this 1000 times) if player deposit 2 times and lose, the 3rd time have more chance to win something and return some money than the last 2 times(and the other way around)..Which means 2 things,-that casinos have some kind of Funnels,and lead players who lost 2 times without withdrawal to + (%) RTP and players who already won to - RTP, or that Providers lead them.

I was thinking that's providers business, but then again this happens also if u play different games and providers and hardly can have connection with providers themselves.This is not silly talk, in my 10years of playing slots, i experienced this literally 1000 times. I hope some others can confirm.


3.Also mentioned earlier that some providers like PRAGMATIC and PLAY'n go, have questionable rtp and casino can fix them, and that they one of the worst providers to play,which i can confirm-(adding Betsoft and Netent) ,.. Which providers also can do that?

I have seen many Licenced casinos more and more promoting Pragmatic games ..


4.Can u made an article or video about Slots for new players, or players in general who don't know which slots to play ,in sense of -to chose slots that have more chance to win on START, progressive or waiting to bonus round,and games where si easy to get bonus round or scatter + games where is hard by give more.

.Im asking this because i see most people deposit and lose money playing some games that are fixed or HARD to hit bonus round or some feature, and there are slots where they can win instant hand by hand,easy + on start with low money , also considering Providers.

Also this is not just silly talk,i helped so many people by suggest them games that can help them get some + money on start and lead them to what they want to play.There are ofc demos, but if someone don't have time to spend 5 hours learning types of slots.


5.In this vid there is a high mention of situation that is well known - if someone win big do not Play that slot for some time...

This is questionable.

Also there was a word about this in forum,and someone confirms... I can confirm this only in Ground based casinos, it's kinda true, if someone win big money recently at specific machine the chances to you to win are really low. ALSO better example if someone lose big money and u sit after him your chances are big to win some money.Also experienced this 1000 times in ground based casinos,and it's a common knowledge among oldest players and people from casinos. IDK why , maybe they still running by slot per slot system (they are not merged for RTP or something...but this is a thing.

Also workers check and take a pic for every machine each,the daily in/out of money at the end of the shift.Why would they do that if they are merged ?



Anyways,whatever the case is , it's important that players have fun.

I sometimes (i don't know why) play some games even if i know that im gonna lose ,just because i like that game,and that is fine.i look at that as some sort of paying for fun, like video games or something..ofc there is always chance to win but still.

The Dopamine hits anyway 😀

hace 4 años

El video está bien hecho, no hay duda al respecto, pero simplemente no creo las tonterías con el generador de números aleatorios

¿Cómo puede ser que solo tenga juegos malos en Moonlight-Princess o Rise of Olympia desde abril? ¿Cómo pueden las princesas o los dioses evitar eso y no permitir giros gratis del 95%?

¿Cómo puede ser que ya haya recolectado más de 100 abejas en Wild Swarm al nivel máximo y el enjambre simplemente no se dispara?

¿Cómo puede ser que he desbloqueado las últimas 5 veces en Street Magic 10-12-12-8-10 y siempre tengo comodines en los carretes 1, 2, 3, 5 y simplemente no obtengo comodines en el carrete 4 para poder obtener más giros gratis.

Pero no importa, todo es pura coincidencia. Es extraño que esta coincidencia apenas entre en juego con Streamer, pero ese es otro tema.


No es sin razón que cada jugador tiene una identificación, que se le asigna, creo que cada jugador obtiene ciertos generadores de números aleatorios con su identificación. En mi opinión, no puede funcionar de otra manera.

Como dije, su video es bastante bueno, pero no creo que sea 100% correcto; ciertamente habrá ciertas cosas que son correctas desde el punto de vista del punto de partida, pero no todas, sry, simplemente puedo imagino. Porque entonces los streamers funcionarían en toda la red.

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hace 4 años

well done video. I like the guru very much, nice character. Congratulations to your team, you do a great job.

I think everything in the video is correct, maybe a little simplified but correct. I read some comments to the video, I don't think the slots have memory of activities of single players. I think that 2 aspects have been missed fom the description of how slots work:

1.Volatility: how often do slots pay? More often they pay, lower are winnings.

2. Jackpot: The jackpot contributes to the RTP. So jackpot slots pay out less in regular wins (because part of the RTP is done by the jackpot win)

Inferno
hace 4 años

Hey there. Sorry for not responding in such a long time. I will do my best now, hopefully the stuff you wrote is still relevant. 🙂

1. They don't control winning or losing in any given spin, they just control the overall chances (RTP, volatility, frequency of symbols, payouts, etc.). I think that if a game has a progressive jackpot, for example, you can get a higher chance (theoretical likelihood) of hitting it when betting more, but the result in any particular spin is still random.

2. I think that this doesn't happen and casinos don't increase the RTP for any particular player.

3. I think this is becoming quite a common practice and many providers do it. They create versions of the same game with various RTPs and then let the casino choose which version they want. It's not ideal, of course, but I would not call it "cheating" or anything like that. But the RTP has to be disclosed and easy to find, so that players know which version they are playing.

4. We are currently creating a video for beginners, but it doesn't focus on game selection. It focuses primarily on things to know before playing, choosing a casino, etc. But what you described might be a good idea for the future 🙂

5. As far as I am concerned, this is just a myth, as we explained in the video as well.

paclmaya
hace 4 años

Hi paclmaya.

I am sorry about your bad experience. The truth is, even though the spins are random, unlikely things like this can happen. All games are designed to behave in certain ways, and some of the things you described might be done on purpose by the designers. For example, with the wilds on reels 1, 2, 3, 5, but no wilds on reel 4... The designers might have purposely put very few wilds onto the 4th reel, so that it's less likely that you get more free spins. I am not saying it's true (I don't know the game nor the specifics of how it was designed), I am just saying that it might possibly be the case.

Not sure about the streamers, but I have to say that it might be difficult to judge based on their videos, because those are often "win compilations", where you see all the big wins, but you don't see the losses between them.

Maros

Userrob
hace 4 años

Thanks a lot! We do our best with the videos and I am glad you liked them. 🙂

Both points you made are correct, but we didn't want to go so deep in this video. It's already pretty long and complicated. Besides, we also have a video about games of chance in general, where we discuss volatility quite a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9fzMDzadtA.

hace 4 años

Honestamente, no creo en esta mierda, ningún casino puede confiar en el factor azar. Especialmente esta calificación es tan complicada que nadie la entiende de todos modos. Desde mi punto de vista, funciona de manera muy diferente.

El sistema recuerda a qué juegos le gusta jugar, por eso tiene su propio número de identificación. Y los juegos de tragamonedas se comportan en consecuencia. Cuanto más juegas a tus juegos, peor se ponen. El mejor ejemplo para mí en este momento es Moonlight Princess, Rise of olympia o Elk-games Fives Lake.


Eso no es una mentira, desde abril de 2020, así que poco después del inicio de Corona, el 98% de los juegos solo tengo juegos malos en los 3 juegos. Especialmente los príncipes y los dioses solo brillan a través de decisiones estúpidas. Son más los maestros de los dispositivos de prevención de juegos gratuitos. ¿Qué más puedes decir nimma? Y Fives Lake es lo mismo: si obtienes giros gratis, casi no obtienes claves, y si has desbloqueado comodines, casi no ganas nada, porque están colocados de tal manera que una gran ganancia es casi imposible.

Ahora tienes que tener miedo de entrar en un juego gratis, porque tan pronto como termina el juego gratis, el juego cambia inmediatamente y finge haber ganado el premio mayor, porque lo que se gana en los juegos gratis se vuelve a comer inmediatamente. .


El mejor ejemplo de Moonlight Princess o Rise of Olympus. Logras por casualidad que la bola se llene, no con la ayuda de las princesas o dioses. Y luego tienes una probabilidad del 10% y no más de obtener un juego gratis. Por lo general, puede ver eso en la imagen. Luego están las decisiones tomadas por los personajes, y es posible que desee golpear su cabeza en la puerta, porque las decisiones simplemente no son útiles. E incluso si no logra evitar los giros gratis, aún tiene la opción de eliminar uno en los giros gratis. Y la mayoría de ellos hacen el 90% de eso. Todo ha estado sucediendo desde abril, pero no puedes decir nada, eso es justo.


¿Qué se supone que me prueba esta calificación? Nada en absoluto, nada en absoluto. Con cada giro que haces, la super coincidencia de calificación empeora



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paclmaya
hace 4 años

It's normal to see various patterns in play, like certain games sometimes paying out a lot and sometimes not giving out any wins at all. But this is all a normal part of randomness. It's normal to see periods without any substantial wins, especially when playing high-volatility games – and all the games you mentioned have a high volatility. If a bonus usually pays out quite a lot of money, it can't be triggered too often, because the math would then not work out as intended. So it's quite usual to see a lot of "near misses".

Casinos CAN rely on randomness, because they know that they have an advantage in the games (house edge) and also a high number of players. Some players win, some players lose, but if you have a high number of players, the casinos can be pretty much sure that they will be profitable.

hace 4 años


Slots are not designed to make you win or lose, they’re just designed to give out symbols. It’s mostly luck. But if you do know the volatility of the game, you can guess when it can give out money. But that’s a big leap for guessing!

hace 4 años

gracias por la informacion chicos y chicas

Shingshing
hace 2 años

lamentablemente es falso

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Maros
hace 2 años



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hace 2 años

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hace 1 año

"Great initiative! The video on the mathematics of games of chance was insightful. Looking forward to learning more about slot machines. Will definitely share my feedback on YouTube."

JasmineSmith
hace 1 año

Thanks for the feedback. You found a rather old video, but there is useful information to be gleaned from it all. 

Jaro
hace 1 año

You're welcome! It's great to hear that even older content can still offer valuable insights. I will check that out too.

hace 1 año

Gracias por el vídeo informativo. Buen trabajo. Merece muchos me gusta :)

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goodyufa
hace 1 año

Thank you kindly 🙂.

Speaking about likes, If I'm not mistaken, it is a very cute capybara you have there...🙌

Radka
hace 1 año

That's right, it's actually a groundhog! Easy mix-up though, they're both adorable critters. 😊

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