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I'm from Russia. There were no issues related to this when I registered with the casino. I successfully topped up my account using litecoin. I was successful in withdrawing my funds. However, now I am unable to withdraw my funds as the casino says it doesn't transfer money to players from Russia.

I believe these actions by the casino are unjust. Such restrictions should be disclosed before registration. Otherwise, I can top up my account regardless of the country I'm from. But I can't withdraw. This is fraudulent and deceptive.

Я из России. При регистрации в казино никаких проблем в связи с этим не возникло. Успешно пополнил счет litecoin. У меня был успешный вывод средств. Но сейчас я не могу сделать вывод средств, так как казино сообщает, что не переводит деньги игрокам из России.

Я считаю эти действия казино несправедливыми. О таких ограничениях необходимо сообщать до регистрации. Иначе я могу пополнить счет и не имеет значения из какой я страны. Но вывести уже не могу. Это мошенничество и обман

Hello Cintrol,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with BetUS Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.

Could you please advise since when is your account fully verified? Up until when was you able to withdraw from the casino? Did you receive any note prior that you will be no longer able to withdraw from the casino? When was the last time you spoke to the casino and what was it about?

Looking forward to your answer.

Regards,

Nick

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Hello Nick!

After I registered at the casino, I indicated my country as Russia. Since access to the casino from Russia is blocked, I used a Finnish VPN. I could use any other one with which I could access the casino. Previously there were no problems due to this. I have a successful withdrawal. I was on holiday in Egypt and accessed the casino website without a VPN. I returned to Russia and encountered problems when trying to withdraw.

I don’t remember the casino requiring verification. I always provide all the necessary information. Unfortunately, customer service at this casino is organized in such a way that it is very difficult to track the history of correspondence. And when communicating by phone (which is a priority in this casino) - this is completely impossible.

The casino has not previously indicated the reason for rejecting the withdrawal request, or why it cannot be created. A telephone conversation with an operator was required. I note that there are no Russian-speaking operators in the casino, and I do not speak English. Therefore, I had to hire an interpreter for the call. I made the call on April 25, 2024, that is, two days ago. The operator said something about using a VPN, but previously this was not an obstacle to playing and withdrawing funds. In the end, he said that the decision would be communicated by email within 24 hours. I did not receive any emails within the specified time frame. And I turned to live chat, where I received an answer that it was impossible for players from Russia to withdraw funds. Although I previously made a successful withdrawal

Привет Nick!

После того как я зарегистрировался в казино, я указал свою страну как Россия. Так как доступ к казино из России заблокирован, я использовал VPN Финляндии. Я мог использовать любой другой, с помощью которого мог получить доступ к казино. Ранее из-за этого не было никаких проблем. У меня есть успешный вывод средств. Я был на отдыхе в Египте и заходил на сайт казино без VPN. Вернулся в Россию и при попытке вывода возникли проблемы.

Я не помню, чтобы казино требовало пройти верификацию. Я всегда предоставляю все необходимые данные. К сожалению, работа с клиентами в этом казино поставлена таким образом, что очень сложно отследить историю переписки. А при общении по телефону (что в приоритете в этом казино) - это совсем невозможно.

Казино ранее не указывало причину отклонения запроса на вывод, а также почему его нельзя создать. Требовался телефонный разговор с оператором. Отмечу, что в казино нет русскоговорящих операторов, а я не владею английским языком. Поэтому для звонка вынужден был привлечь переводчика. Я делал звонок 25.04.2024, то есть два дня назад. Оператор что-то говорил про использование VPN, но ранее это не было препятствием для игры и вывода средств. В итоге сказал, что решение сообщат на электронную почту в течение суток. Я не получил никаких писем в указанный срок. И обратился в live chat, где получил ответ, что вывод средств игрокам из России невозможен. Хотя ранее я делал успешный вывод средств

Today I was able to fund my BetUS account via cryptocurrency without any problems. For example, for $1. That is, the casino does not limit deposits for players from Russia, but refuses to pay them winnings. These are obviously extremely unfair terms on the part of the company.

Сегодня я смог без проблем пополнить счет в BetUS через криптовалюту. Для примера на 1$. То есть казино не ограничивает депозиты для игроков из России, но отказывается выплачивать им выигрыш. Это очевидно крайне несправедливые условия со стороны компании.

Hello Cintrol,

Is there any conversation between you and the casino which would prove that they knew about you playing from Russia or using VPN? If yes, please forward it to nikolas.b@casino.guru.

I will repeat that this casino does not use e-mail to communicate with customers. In live chat, the correspondence history is not saved. When communicating on the phone, I did not record the conversation. The casino knew that I was from Russia, I indicated this in my profile. In a telephone conversation, I reported that I was using a VPN. I don't hide it. It is otherwise impossible to access the site from Russia.

Я повторю, что в этом казино не используют e-mail для общения с клиентами. В live chat история переписки не сохраняется. При общении по телефону я не делал запись разговора. Казино знало, что я из России, я указал это в профиле. В телефонном разговоре я сообщил о том, что использовал vpn. Я не скрываю это. Получить доступ к сайту из России иначе невозможно.

Hello Cintrol,

Would it be possible to forward a screenshot of your casino account (where the information are filled - country i.e.). Please send it to nikolas.b@casino.guru.

I sent a screenshot of my personal account to the specified email

Я отправил скриншот личного кабинета на указанную почту

Thank you Cintrol for all the information provided. As the casino did not block your account yet, Russia should not be restricted. As they were previously processing your withdrawals, it seems strange to block your payouts without any prior notice or communication. I will now forward your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.c@casino.guru) who will be assisting you from now on.

Wish you best luck resolving it.

Regards,

Nick

Hello there,

Thank you Cintrol for providing us with all the information. I hope we'll be able to resolve this issue together.

I would now like to ask BetUS Casino for their help in resolving this complaint. We would like to know what is the issue with the withdrawal and what can we do to help the player receive their winnings.

Thank you!

We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

I have tried to contact the casino repeatedly but had no success. I'm afraid there is not much that can be achieved without cooperation from its side. Since the casino operates Comoros license, there isn't an option to escalate the complaint further.

I will mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system. I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in the rating caused by unresolved complaints could help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to react, we will reopen the complaint and you will be notified by email. 

I can only recommend you choose casinos by their reviews and ratings in the future to avoid situations like this. I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion.

Best regards,

Peter