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Cata1992
hace 3 meses

Providers that just keep you in the game but very rarely you see a big win as I believe are "AMATIC", "AMUSNET", "AMIGOGAMING", "BETSOFT", "ENDORPHINA", "REDRAKE".

 Good providers according to my knowledge are "GAMZIX", "3OAKS" "AVATARUX", BLUEPRINT", "MERKUR", "RELAX", "SYNOT", "NOLIMIT", "PLAYTECH" and "HACKSAW".

In my opinion, "PLAYNGO" has gone down a lot in recent years, you can see victory through binoculars.

Editado por el autor hace 3 meses
Jelena_PragmaticPlay
hace 3 meses

hola jelena,

¿Cómo puedes explicarme que con un bajo grande ni siquiera puedes llegar a 10 con 30.000 giros y 300 giros gratis? Durante un año sólo 1-3 pescadores. Ya no pasa nada en el juego. Tengo cientos de capturas de pantalla que lo demuestran. también vídeos. ¿Es eso realmente de tu interés? ¿O los casinos pueden cambiar su RTP especificado como quieran?

Agradecería una respuesta. Atentamente

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franztheuerw
hace 3 meses

And then when you finally get a bonus game the pay out is poor. The only time I play big bass is when I get free spins awarded and then I have to mute the music be because it drives me nuts 🤪🤯. Also when you play either Gates of olympus or 1000 on demo he strikes nearly every drop but when you play for real 5/6 times then the max is x4 and if you get a good fall he never strikes down. Also like Sweet bonanza, Gates and big bass the amount of times you are one scatter short so many times it's mental torture!! Like the title of this post says Pragmatic are an International fraud. 🤬

franztheuerw
hace 3 meses

As I said above, the casinos set the rtp in agreement with the providers. Countless times I've had the chance of well-known providers behaving well in the beginning, but after 2-3 big wins they become unrecognizable, the rtp plummets. Also, well-known providers have different returns from casino to casino

giannis400
hace 3 meses

I joined another crap casino and got 100% bonus so had 40 played. 20 on their Gates of olympus he struck down about 3 times never won once never got more than 2 scatters money gone in minutes. Pragmatic are criminal! 🤬

Anonymized534
hace 3 meses

My question is why do you keep trying on the same provider if you think you just can't win with it ? Don't you think a little break wouldn't hurt ? 🤔

Anonymized534
hace 3 meses

Stop playing this provider, there is no other solution. Υou are absolutely right in what you say, they are very cunning

Editado por el autor hace 3 meses
hace 3 meses

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Many of the theories mentioned above regarding this fraudulent provider are confirmed. Recently I won in big bass splash with a stake of 1 EUR -> 250x. With a balance of over EUR 350, I went to Gates Of Olympus for a bonus buys session. Just 10 minutes of play was enough to realize what a cruel gambling world we live in today. I am an experienced player. My story dates back to 2015. There was a time when government bonuses of 1-5x were unheard of. Quite rare. Right now, my soul needs rest from this international mafia that only wants to take over your mind and take all your money. This world is on the brink and is leading to complete degeneration. It multiplies many problems.

hace 3 meses

Ahora puedo decirle algo a MSL por mi propia experiencia. Perdió alrededor de 1000 en Cashwin.com el jueves sin obtener demasiadas ganancias. El viernes, con alrededor de 300 euros en depósitos, obtuve al menos 40 giros gratis en BigBass Bonanza por 1 euro, 1,20 y 1,50. Otras 15 veces por 2 euros en Christmas Big Bass, unas 20 veces por 1 euro y 1,20. En Halloween otras 10 veces hasta las 1.20.

Si haces los cálculos, los giros gratis con compra de bonificación cuestan al menos 8.000 euros. Había 60 giros gratis con solo un euro.

Al final del día tenía 1000 euros. El premio máximo en Halloween fue de 250 euros. De lo contrario, sólo ganarás hasta 60 euros.

No creo que todo sea normal.

Te sugeriré algo. Todos ustedes siempre deben tomar capturas de pantalla como lo hago yo, luego todos podemos publicar en cualquier lugar. Tengo 790 capturas de pantalla hasta ahora.


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hace 3 meses

That's it for me for the final time I will say I will never gamble another €1 at any casino Its not only Pragmatic that's totally corrupt they all are the RTP is a lie on all of them. I spent a couple of days last week taking the no deposit bonuses from casinos mostly in the USA where you get a free chip or free spins up to $125. The wagering is ridiculous but I just wanted to see if they were as bad. With the free spins I only once made more in profit than the free spins would have cost me. Then when I played with the profit or chip the slots were awful. Yes you would get wins but each time your balance would go down. When you got a bonus the return was terrible but I had nothing better to do and it's once and for all taught me that with the computer software winning is virtually impossible it's all controlled to take your money. It's a mugs game and I'm sure that a few years ago I was getting some decent wins but now it's a joke a waste of time and money.


hace 3 meses

Hoy el próximo intento, Bonanza de Navidad a 1,20 y 1,50 giros gratis 9 veces, ganancia máxima de 51 euros.

En Big Bass 10 veces aproximadamente giros gratis con una apuesta de 1 euro, ganancia máxima de 41 euros.

Bigger Bass 5 veces con una apuesta de 0,96, ganancia máxima de 29 euros.

Splash 4 veces por 1 euro, gana máximo 39 euros.

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hace 3 meses

Y continúa en Navidad Big bass, 13 veces por una apuesta de 2 euros, una ganancia de 215 euros, en caso contrario todos los demás por debajo de 80 euros. 13 veces 200 euros por giros gratis y nunca nada sensato.

Antes, más de 50 giros gratis con ganancias inferiores a 100 euros.

Configuración personal absoluta del software. Nadie puede decirte lo contrario. Tener más de 1000 capturas de pantalla. El mayor premio son 800 euros con 10 rondas en Navidad con una apuesta de 2 euros; de lo contrario, siempre cambia. Y eso con más de 1000 giros gratis. ¿Deberías estar contento si depositas 500 euros, obtienes 100 giros gratis con una apuesta de hasta 2 euros y puedes solicitar un pago de 1000? Eso no tiene ningún sentido. En mi opinión, no hay mayor estafa que los juegos de Pragmatic Play. ¿Esto también tiene una conexión con mi casino cashwin.com?

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Cata1992
hace 3 meses

¿Te das cuenta de que 100 giros gratis por 1 euro son al final 10.000 euros? Y tenía al menos 100 desde el viernes hasta hoy y no sólo a 1 euro sino también a 2 euros, 1,50 y 1,20. Y acabo de comprar 1000. Eso no es el 10 por ciento. ¡¡Matemáticamente se puede decir puro fraude!!

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Cata1992
hace 3 meses

No they are all the same in my experience it used to be ok on some slots but less players means they need to maximise their profits from the ones that do by making it harder to win and make sure when you get a bonus it's not enough to escape with a nice profit and you end up losing it all. Take the advice I'm giving my self it's all a con = online casinos they are out to fleece you out of your money because slots are fixed not to pay. Time to give it up and find something else to do. As a last example I joined a casino today with a free chip $35 got one bonus on fortunes of olympus 12 spins = 0000000000!! It's a joke 🤣🤮🤬

hace 3 meses

I have been playing online slots since 2013, what you have been doing in the last 12 months is unprecedented. All providers are sealed, they don't give anything. The provider "fazi" is worse than "pracmatic" if he gives you a win X 100 then you have to lose 2-3 times the win he gave you to get a profit again. There are 2 cases, one is that they have taken down the rtp because fewer players are playing or less money is playing, the other is that we are dealing with big thieves who have become much more greedy than before. You used to get your lost money back if you had consecutive losses, now you don't. Notice that in no casino you have a win after a big win X 2500, this happens because there is an image of your account among the providers, so if you win, all the providers find out and drop your rtp to 0. I had a big win at "the rave " by nolimit and on ronnin by "hakzaw", the winnings were X 2500 with €0.60, after that no provider gave a profit. I have been playing "THE RAVE" for 5 years, it gave me a win x 2500, it is not allowed not to give a win again after this win that happened on 8/10/2023, you do not allow it not to give me any free spins, I have played thousands of euros in this game, you don't allow them to close after a big win, I haven't played in hakzaw and I don't expect frequent wins, but in "nolimit" you don't allow me to be treated like this. So everyone is a fraud, for all this today I decided not to play slots again, but I will come here to write to help whoever I can, sorry for the long text!

Editado por el autor hace 3 meses
hace 3 meses

I am glad that a much larger number of gamblers notice this barbarity on the part of suppliers. As I mentioned earlier. The climax was COVID-19. And to quote Klaus Schwab's... "You will have nothing and you will be happy." Only people who are intelligent and trust their intuition notice these radical changes. We should unite and do everything in our power to ensure that providers like Pragmatic Play fall to the bottom and cannot recover. This will, in part, save the gambling world. Any ideas Guys?

koVVal92
hace 3 meses

You can't mess with them, they're giants... all you can do is save yourself from playing like I'm about to do again. There are no control mechanisms, that's why these things happen, if there were, things wouldn't be like this. What to do in front of a giant like "pragmatic", give me an idea... sue... what will you gain?

Editado por el autor hace 3 meses
koVVal92
hace 3 meses

There is only one answer that's to individually stop depositing your money at any casino and give them and the providers your cash as your chance of winning is less than 10%. They manipulate the games with sophisticated software that prevents you from winning big if anything at all. I deposited over €1000 in the last 3mths and not the sign of a win. I admit I got addicted to slots and now I'm over it. I have taken up learning Spainish instead of playing. Duo lingo offer free courses which are good if you want to spend your time in a more positive way. I will also use the money I have wasted gambling to have a nice holiday in September so take the measures to make sure you stop 😁

giannis400
hace 3 meses

You can't sue them they didn't force you to play just pack it all in!!😜

Anonymized534
hace 3 meses

Today they took my last money, how long has it been since you stopped playing, do you feel like playing again?


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