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doggoclub19
hace 5 meses

I have been playing in online casinos for 11 years, I have never won more than X2500 on my bet, all the times I have reached this point were at providers and casinos where I had deposited a lot of money. What you say about me does not apply. What you say is advertised by streamers.

Editado por el autor hace 5 meses
VadGars8919
hace 5 meses

The provider in question is a surprise provider, whoever fell into his trap fell.

Radka
hace 5 meses

Another trick of some games, they force you to play a lot in order to get big profits, from my experience the result is more painful.

hace 5 meses

This is a rejection of my review by Ms. Radka for bwin Greek Grand Casino

"Hello.

We appreciate your concern. User review is not a tool to say „hey, I could not win in this casino", user review must provide at least some additional information aside from the fact that you lost. For instance, support, quality, KYc complexion, website design, payment options variety, and so on.

 

You can on the other hand send all those mentioned people to the licensing authority. I recommend gathering a full-scale gaming history to support your concern.

Technically, I am not aware of any official company focusing on evaluating RTP in casinos.

 

The industry is based on licenses in that regard."


It bothered me that I mentioned rtp, aggressive casino behavior and criminal rng when there are many reviews that refer to these and have been accepted. I tried more than twice to pass a review for this casino and it was rejected. My reviews were rejected by 3 different administrators, the last one as I said above was rejected by Ms. Radka. Conclusion, some casinos here should not be touched. Some casinos are protected by sword and shield.

hace 5 meses

I assume you have got a very similar explanation from every administrator, so I believe we explained the issue with your "review" quite completely.

There is a huge difference between stating that casinos offer "fake RTP" or "fake games" and due to that you are not satisfied because it's obviously criminal - and btween experience saying, even though I was not lucky enough, they have quite good KYC procedure, the support could be better though.

I honestly hope the difference is clear.

hace 5 meses

Another trick of some games, they force you to play a lot in order to get big profits, from my experience the result is more painful.

hace 5 meses

Stop playing then. I have never heard anything positive from you, as far as I can recall. So, why do you keep spending money on something you don't believe in anymore?



giannis400
hace 5 meses
My reviews were rejected by 3 different administrators, the last one as I said above was rejected by Ms. Radka. Conclusion, some casinos here should not be touched. Some casinos are protected by sword and shield.

Or the fact your reviews were rejected by 3 different admins and you have 28 rejected reviews in total (submitted to different casinos) simply proves that you still don't understand how to write a proper casino review. That's another point of view.

Radka
hace 5 meses

I have to write positive things for you to like, especially for casino that cooperate with providers and have favorable treatment.

Editado por el autor hace 5 meses
hace 5 meses

Listen everyone

All slots are programmed to make us lose. I'm playing from two and half years but never got more than 1000x and that too five times only. No matter which provider , if you win they will make you lose. But pragmatic play is really worst it make balance 0 soon with no bonus arriving. I lost 4000$ playing slots till now. I wish I never play them. They are programmed to make us lose. Never play gambling in slots because they are pre programmed to make us lose. I have a bad experience with play n go provider too 2 days ago 😭😭, lost 72$ two days ago

Daniel
hace 5 meses

Casinos that act fraudulently, many have said this, there is no reason to repeat them. You have set conditions that we only talk about kyc, customer service or something else, so we can't talk about our topic. Sometimes bad reviews are accepted for casinos that are not accessible to you, this should be a concern

Editado por el autor hace 5 meses
giannis400
hace 5 meses

We use these specifics to help you understand a meaningful use review. Just examples.

I believe there is little else we can do for you in that regard. Don't twist our words, please.

hace 5 meses

Listen everyone

All slots are programmed to make us lose. I'm playing from two and half years but never got more than 1000x and that too five times only. No matter which provider , if you win they will make you lose. But pragmatic play is really worst it make balance 0 soon with no bonus arriving. I lost 4000$ playing slots till now. I wish I never play them. They are programmed to make us lose. Never play gambling in slots because they are pre programmed to make us lose. I have a bad experience with play n go provider too 2 days ago 😭😭, lost 72$ two days ago

hace 5 meses

Do you know that slots are the most favorable games for casinos? Not for players. You are statistically losing on each bet; it's called the house edge.

Radka
hace 5 meses

And they say RTP is 96% , I think the RTP is only 20% 🙁

kabcd42
hace 5 meses

No matter how you answer, he will tell you that you are going to say something different, so don't get tired. The reviews must be real, when you don't win anything in 300 spins, in 20 bonuses, losing €500, then your ratings are bad. He won't admit that providers make deals with casinos and modify rng and rtp. They will tell you that the casinos are controlled by the competent authorities or they will ask you if you have evidence for what you are saying, do you who play know or are you waiting for someone else to tell you.

Editado por el autor hace 5 meses
kabcd42
hace 5 meses

Well, casinos are made for thrill and entertainment, pretty rich entertainment 🙂

Do you usually play pragmatic play only or any other providers?

What's in your opinion the best provider from the point of view of wins?

hace 5 meses

My biggest win till now is in book of dead slot of playngo , buffalo slot of spinomenal, and Aztec clusters of bgamimg provider. Pragmatic is ruthless and eats my balance fast. My worst experience with 3oaks provider too it straight up eaten my 100$ balance. Pragmatic fat panda game is somewhat ok and it gives wins. But avoid sugal rush and sugar rush 1000 at all costs

hace 5 meses

And they say RTP is 96% , I think the RTP is only 20% 🙁

hace 5 meses

How did you come to number 20? It's interestingly precise, in my opinion.

You know, in order to calculate the precise RTP of any slot game, you need to reverse engineer it. I honestly doubt any of us here, giannis400 included, possess such an extraordinary set of skills.

When you bet on slots, do you consider their volatility? It determines whether you will win more often but at a lower amount or if you might hit a few big shots over an extended period of time. In my opinion, this is an important aspect.

hace 5 meses

No matter how you answer, he will tell you that you are going to say something different, so don't get tired. The reviews must be real, when you don't win anything in 300 spins, in 20 bonuses, losing €500, then your ratings are bad. He won't admit that providers make deals with casinos and modify rng and rtp. They will tell you that the casinos are controlled by the competent authorities or they will ask you if you have evidence for what you are saying, do you who play know or are you waiting for someone else to tell you.

hace 5 meses

Dear player, please stop explaining what we would say. In my opinion, the more you present your ideas here, the more you demonstrate how far you have come when it comes to objectivity.

Furthermore, we can speak for ourselves.

It's only logical to prove your opinions when you're constantly marking all casinos as fradulent because you can't win as much as you like. Gambling does not work like this, and by playing slots, as was mentioned, you deliberately pick up the less profitable games only to complain that the outcome is rigged.

Again, I'm seriously considering whether your presence here on the forum holds any benefits to the community. I remember warning you last year.

So, here comes the resume:


If you won't stop immediately:


  1. saying that some casino are somehow untouchable, so we don't accept negative reviews submitted on them
  2. saying that casinos "modify" or intentionally lower RNG - WITHOUT providing proof
  3. harassing players who disagree with our opinions


your account will be banned for good.


Editado por el autor hace 5 meses
doggoclub19
hace 5 meses

nolimit

Radka
hace 5 meses

You know objectivity better than us who play for hours, so what are we doing here, are we here to agree?

I don't call all casinos scams, you say that.

You also know that I play to lose, so what can I say, know that I play games that pay thousands of euros when played correctly

Don't threaten me, you are too young to threaten me. You had forewarned me, and what happened that you had forewarned me, should I cry for it?

 As for how much what I write helps others, it can be seen from the continuous answers they give me and from the many people who participate in the discussion, agreeing with me. Now if you don't like them, I don't care, show your Democracy to someone else, not to me, ok?

After all, who are you to tell me what to say?

Don't contact me again, do whatever you want, but you won't answer me again, agreed?

as I will not be involved either.

Ban them all, then those who are left will agree with you lol.

I would also tell you how much I consider your threat of exclusion, but I don't want to swear and I won't swear, good evening

Editado por el autor hace 5 meses
Radka
hace 5 meses

Así suelen actuar los estafadores, que no tienen nada que responder, es mejor bloquear a un cliente que dice la verdad que corregir su error. Jugando con su proveedor durante 5 años, noté que sus programadores hicieron muchos cambios en las tragamonedas. Así que ahora a menudo obtienes 2-3 scatters, pero esto no te da un juego de bonificación, se volvió imposible obtener el máximo beneficio del giro. Estos cambios se hicieron el año pasado y muchos jugadores lo notaron. Además, permitió reducir el RTP para los propietarios de casinos, antes había un RTP estable del 96,8%, ¡ahora en algunos lugares el RTP está escrito en el nivel del 94-95%!

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