Tema general sobre Twin Casino (página 5)

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Radka

Novato avanzado

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Radka

hace 3 meses

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Hi dear Radka

So what are you trying to explain to us? That the terms set by the casino itself, which we as players agreed to, stating that it pays out in 1-3 days, are not being followed? Is that okay from your perspective and shouldn't affect its rating? If the casino pays whenever it wants without providing you with a reason for the delay so that you can address it or provide documents that might help, does that also not count towards its rating? It's wrong that verification isn't factored into the rating!

If a casino tries to create bureaucratic obstacles during the verification process to take advantage of time and make you frustrated enough to stop requesting your money, shouldn't that be included in its rating?

Why, when you've already sent four documents (that tehy asked) that clearly state and confirm your residential address, do they then ask for your car registration, which we all know has the date of purchase, and tell you it needs to be more recent? What do you want us to do as players? Sell our car and buy a new one just to have a more recent purchase title? Because even that wasn't enough for them.

I have the impression that you're mistaken—this is just my personal opinion—and that quick verification and fast withdrawal options are factors that contribute positively to a casino's reputation.

Since the user reviews are not verified, allow me to have doubts about what is being written. As for the complaints, I know that people need to send you informations and you know whether someone is registered or not, and those hold more value.

About the unusual that you stated , if they found something "unusual" they must inform the player for the delay about investigation its taken place.

Editado por el autor hace 3 meses

Dana221

Xela

Novato avanzado

Rusia

Xela

hace 3 meses

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Hola) Tengo exactamente el mismo problema que tú, al principio aceptaron mis documentos y escribieron que pasé todos los controles. Lo puse en retiro, un día después lo cancelaron y me dijeron que esperara 30 días.

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Jaro

Forum and Reviews Administrator

Xela

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

Hi dear Radka

So what are you trying to explain to us? That the terms set by the casino itself, which we as players agreed to, stating that it pays out in 1-3 days, are not being followed? Is that okay from your perspective and shouldn't affect its rating? If the casino pays whenever it wants without providing you with a reason for the delay so that you can address it or provide documents that might help, does that also not count towards its rating? It's wrong that verification isn't factored into the rating!

If a casino tries to create bureaucratic obstacles during the verification process to take advantage of time and make you frustrated enough to stop requesting your money, shouldn't that be included in its rating?

Why, when you've already sent four documents (that tehy asked) that clearly state and confirm your residential address, do they then ask for your car registration, which we all know has the date of purchase, and tell you it needs to be more recent? What do you want us to do as players? Sell our car and buy a new one just to have a more recent purchase title? Because even that wasn't enough for them.

I have the impression that you're mistaken—this is just my personal opinion—and that quick verification and fast withdrawal options are factors that contribute positively to a casino's reputation.

Since the user reviews are not verified, allow me to have doubts about what is being written. As for the complaints, I know that people need to send you informations and you know whether someone is registered or not, and those hold more value.

About the unusual that you stated , if they found something "unusual" they must inform the player for the delay about investigation its taken place.

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

Well, I guess I would explain it like this. If it were to be factored into the rating it would not be objective. Every casino has a different verification procedure. Someone is verified in a few days, someone in a day, someone in a few weeks. However, it is not always the casino's fault, but also the players sometimes do not provide the right documents, or format, etc. Then it wouldn't be fair if the rating is lowered for example because it takes a long time and it's not the casino's mistake at all.

Then there are those that take unnecessarily long and for example ask for documents one at a time and a different one every week. Sometimes it happens that they reject the document and don't tell why and the player tries to do everything to make it right. So it wouldn't be the same if you understand what I wrote. I don't mean to defend this casino and I think it's been going on long enough. But as Radka said, it could be that they hit something in your verification that prolonged it.

So that's what I would say.

Jaro

Forum and Reviews Administrator

Dana221

hace 3 meses

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Hola) Tengo exactamente el mismo problema que tú, al principio aceptaron mis documentos y escribieron que pasé todos los controles. Lo puse en retiro, un día después lo cancelaron y me dijeron que esperara 30 días.

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hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

Hmm, I find it strange when this happens to multiple players. They didn't tell you anything else except that it can take a month ? That would definitely not be enough for me and I would like to know more.

Anyway, it seems that for now we will have to wait if the team doesn't find out something.

That's probably the wisest thing to do.

Xela

Jaro

Novato avanzado

Grecia

Jaro

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

Hola Jaro,

¿Viste lo que intentaba explicarte? Dana221 tiene exactamente el mismo problema. ¿Crees que es una coincidencia? ¿Que algo también pudo haber salido mal con su verificación? ¿Qué coincidencia? Espero que así sea.

Lo que me dijeron tampoco fue suficiente, y he enviado documentos y me he comunicado con ellos más de 15 veces hasta ahora, sin que me den ninguna razón o explicación, ni me pidan documentos adicionales porque lo que envié no estaba bien. Entonces, ¿crees que un casino que simplemente arroja una respuesta como "Necesito 30 días para revisar los documentos" sin decir nada más merece una buena calificación por su proceso KYC? El último día de la fecha límite que me dieron es el 26 de agosto, en 5 días. ¿Me estás diciendo que necesitan exactamente 30 días para revisar los documentos? Ni siquiera 20, sino 30. ¿Hay algo mágico en el número 30? ¿O está escrito en algún lugar en sus términos que después de 30 días, la cuenta se cierra y solo están esperando a que pasen esos 30 días? Porque en este punto, espero cualquier cosa de ellos.

El servicio de atención al cliente es completamente inútil. No tienen comunicación con los departamentos de verificación, solo están ahí para repetir el mismo guion, e incluso ellos admiten que no tienen información. ¿Y nos estás diciendo que no sería justo incluir una calificación por demoras o por un soporte en vivo incompetente? Por supuesto que es justo. He realizado numerosas verificaciones KYC con muchas empresas a lo largo de los años, y nunca me he encontrado con un servicio y una situación como esta, y además me han pedido menos documentos. No puede ser que Twin sea la única empresa "seria", y llevo años jugando con empresas amateurs que son gigantes del mercado.

Entonces, querido Jaro, ¿cómo sugieres que reflejemos esta terrible experiencia en la calificación del casino? Porque definitivamente es algo que debe reflejarse y no es solo un tema para la sección de quejas.

Gracias por tu tiempo

Hi Jaro,

Did you see what I was trying to explain to you? Dana221 has exactly the same problem. Do you think that's a coincidence? That something might have gone wrong with her verification too? Such a coincidence? I hope that's the case.

What they told me wasn't enough either, and I've sent documents and communicated with them over 15 times so far, without them giving me any reason or explanation, nor asking for additional documents because what I sent wasn't okay. So, do you think a casino that just throws out a response like "I need 30 days to review the documents" without saying anything else deserves a good rating for its KYC process? The last day of the deadline they gave me is August 26th, in 5 days. Are you telling me they need exactly 30 days to review the documents? Not even 20, but 30. Is there something magical about the number 30? Or is it written somewhere in their terms that after 30 days, the account closes, and they're just waiting for those 30 days to pass? Because at this point, I'm expecting anything from them.

The customer service is completely useless. They have no communication with the verification departments; they're just there to repeat the same script, and even they admit they have no information. And you're telling us that it wouldn't be fair to include a rating for delays or for incompetent live support? Of course, it’s fair. I've done numerous KYC verifications with many companies over the years, and I've never encountered such service and a situation like this, and they've also asked for fewer documents. It can't be that Twin is the only "serious" company, and I've been playing for years with amateur companies that are giants in the market.

So, dear Jaro, how do you suggest we reflect this ordeal in the casino's rating? Because it definitely needs to be reflected, and it’s not just a matter for the complaints section.

Thanks for your time

Xela

Novato avanzado

Grecia

Jaro

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

Hmm, I find it strange when this happens to multiple players. They didn't tell you anything else except that it can take a month ? That would definitely not be enough for me and I would like to know more.

Anyway, it seems that for now we will have to wait if the team doesn't find out something.

That's probably the wisest thing to do.

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

I have fresh news about the situation with Twin Casino. They responded to the thread of my complaint, claiming that they sent me an email and that I filled out a form to schedule a video call with them, specifying the day and time.

It would be good if Mirka now did her own KYC on them and requested that they send her an unedited print screen of the entire screen showing the email they supposedly sent me and the completed form I supposedly sent back. Maybe then I'll find out how and when we're supposed to communicate, because they haven’t sent me anything, and what they’re claiming is completely false. And they didn’t just say that they sent me a form to fill out, but that I filled it out and sent it back to them too. Hahaha, it's completely ridiculous.

I’ve been trying to reach them for almost 20 days because they've blocked my withdrawals, and I can't access my €500. Do they really think I wouldn’t be checking my emails inbox/spam/junk every day?!

And now, with this ridiculous behavior and their lies, you don’t want their rating to be affected because it would be unfair?

Editado por el autor hace 3 meses

Dana221

Xela

Novato avanzado

Rusia

Xela

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

¿Eso significa que también tengo que esperar una llamada dentro de 30 días?)

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Xela

Novato avanzado

Grecia

Dana221

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

¿Eso significa que también tengo que esperar una llamada dentro de 30 días?)

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hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

I really don't know what to expect from them anymore. They even sent a message claiming that they sent me an email and that I responded with a date and time for a video call, even though I haven't received anything and haven't filled out anything.

Jaro

Forum and Reviews Administrator

Xela

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

Hola Jaro,

¿Viste lo que intentaba explicarte? Dana221 tiene exactamente el mismo problema. ¿Crees que es una coincidencia? ¿Que algo también pudo haber salido mal con su verificación? ¿Qué coincidencia? Espero que así sea.

Lo que me dijeron tampoco fue suficiente, y he enviado documentos y me he comunicado con ellos más de 15 veces hasta ahora, sin que me den ninguna razón o explicación, ni me pidan documentos adicionales porque lo que envié no estaba bien. Entonces, ¿crees que un casino que simplemente arroja una respuesta como "Necesito 30 días para revisar los documentos" sin decir nada más merece una buena calificación por su proceso KYC? El último día de la fecha límite que me dieron es el 26 de agosto, en 5 días. ¿Me estás diciendo que necesitan exactamente 30 días para revisar los documentos? Ni siquiera 20, sino 30. ¿Hay algo mágico en el número 30? ¿O está escrito en algún lugar en sus términos que después de 30 días, la cuenta se cierra y solo están esperando a que pasen esos 30 días? Porque en este punto, espero cualquier cosa de ellos.

El servicio de atención al cliente es completamente inútil. No tienen comunicación con los departamentos de verificación, solo están ahí para repetir el mismo guion, e incluso ellos admiten que no tienen información. ¿Y nos estás diciendo que no sería justo incluir una calificación por demoras o por un soporte en vivo incompetente? Por supuesto que es justo. He realizado numerosas verificaciones KYC con muchas empresas a lo largo de los años, y nunca me he encontrado con un servicio y una situación como esta, y además me han pedido menos documentos. No puede ser que Twin sea la única empresa "seria", y llevo años jugando con empresas amateurs que son gigantes del mercado.

Entonces, querido Jaro, ¿cómo sugieres que reflejemos esta terrible experiencia en la calificación del casino? Porque definitivamente es algo que debe reflejarse y no es solo un tema para la sección de quejas.

Gracias por tu tiempo

Hi Jaro,

Did you see what I was trying to explain to you? Dana221 has exactly the same problem. Do you think that's a coincidence? That something might have gone wrong with her verification too? Such a coincidence? I hope that's the case.

What they told me wasn't enough either, and I've sent documents and communicated with them over 15 times so far, without them giving me any reason or explanation, nor asking for additional documents because what I sent wasn't okay. So, do you think a casino that just throws out a response like "I need 30 days to review the documents" without saying anything else deserves a good rating for its KYC process? The last day of the deadline they gave me is August 26th, in 5 days. Are you telling me they need exactly 30 days to review the documents? Not even 20, but 30. Is there something magical about the number 30? Or is it written somewhere in their terms that after 30 days, the account closes, and they're just waiting for those 30 days to pass? Because at this point, I'm expecting anything from them.

The customer service is completely useless. They have no communication with the verification departments; they're just there to repeat the same script, and even they admit they have no information. And you're telling us that it wouldn't be fair to include a rating for delays or for incompetent live support? Of course, it’s fair. I've done numerous KYC verifications with many companies over the years, and I've never encountered such service and a situation like this, and they've also asked for fewer documents. It can't be that Twin is the only "serious" company, and I've been playing for years with amateur companies that are giants in the market.

So, dear Jaro, how do you suggest we reflect this ordeal in the casino's rating? Because it definitely needs to be reflected, and it’s not just a matter for the complaints section.

Thanks for your time

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

I totally understand why you are of this opinion and I also don't find it normal for a casino to check documents for 30 days if it's just a routine verification and they didn't find anything that could raise suspicion.

However, I will still be of the opinion that it cannot reflect the safety index and I think I explained that in my previous answer. Every player can have a different experience, and now I'm not saying that your bad one would be less valuable. Nevertheless, consider the case that after such a lengthy and unpleasant verification of you and another player, for example, two more players would come in a week later and say that the verification was done successfully in one day and that they did not have the same experience as you. Then another player would come in the next week and say they had problems with the verification. Should the safety index still be running based on that ? Also, there are a lot of players who don't come to say it was fast and the casino is great, but a lot of players only come when there is an issue. Which I would say wouldn't be fair in this case either. That's not to say, as I mentioned, that I find it normal for verification to take this long, at all, and I would be frustrated myself.

Besides, I saw from your complaint that you should have a verification call tomorrow. So I'd say that's mainly because they might have missed something and wanted to verify it. So if you pass that one successfully, then I believe it won't cause any more difficulties.

Please let me know how it goes.

Jaro

Forum and Reviews Administrator

Xela

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

I have fresh news about the situation with Twin Casino. They responded to the thread of my complaint, claiming that they sent me an email and that I filled out a form to schedule a video call with them, specifying the day and time.

It would be good if Mirka now did her own KYC on them and requested that they send her an unedited print screen of the entire screen showing the email they supposedly sent me and the completed form I supposedly sent back. Maybe then I'll find out how and when we're supposed to communicate, because they haven’t sent me anything, and what they’re claiming is completely false. And they didn’t just say that they sent me a form to fill out, but that I filled it out and sent it back to them too. Hahaha, it's completely ridiculous.

I’ve been trying to reach them for almost 20 days because they've blocked my withdrawals, and I can't access my €500. Do they really think I wouldn’t be checking my emails inbox/spam/junk every day?!

And now, with this ridiculous behavior and their lies, you don’t want their rating to be affected because it would be unfair?

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

In this case I would just write to them when and what time the call should be made and on what platform, if they don't write you back or something like that, then Mirka will deal with it further. I'm the admin on the forum and I don't deal with complaints, so she will then decide what happens next. If the casino doesn't resolve the complaint, it will get black points and its safety index will be changed, don't worry about that.

Xela

Jaro

Novato avanzado

Grecia

Jaro

hace 3 meses

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Hi Jaro ,

Yes, I have a verification scheduled for tomorrow, but I only found out about it from here. They haven’t sent me any email as they claim, and I never responded to any form because they simply haven’t sent anything. Why are you overlooking this?

Does it seem normal to you that they say they sent me an email and that I even responded, when that never happened?

Also, yes, simple verifications can happen immediately, but our issue here is when you’ve won and request a withdrawal. Don’t confuse simple verifications with the bureaucracy they create when it comes to withdrawing winnings.

Are we really supposed to take the opinions of customers who simply sign up, go through verification, and don’t have any winnings to withdraw? The issue is with withdrawals, not just playing and losing, because that’s what happens to the majority at casinos—not the winners.

When you’re losing, casinos don’t care about verifications—we all know that. No one ever asked for more documents because you’re losing. As long as you’re losing, you’re their best customer, and they won’t bother you.

Xela

Novato avanzado

Grecia

Jaro

hace 3 meses

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In this case I would just write to them when and what time the call should be made and on what platform, if they don't write you back or something like that, then Mirka will deal with it further. I'm the admin on the forum and I don't deal with complaints, so she will then decide what happens next. If the casino doesn't resolve the complaint, it will get black points and its safety index will be changed, don't worry about that.

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

I just received communication from them regarding the video call. I'll keep you updated

Thank for your time Jaro

Regards

Jaro

Forum and Reviews Administrator

Xela

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

I just received communication from them regarding the video call. I'll keep you updated

Thank for your time Jaro

Regards

hace 3 meses

OriginalTraducción

See, great, so I firmly believe that this verification call will be successful and you will be able to collect your winnings.

I'm curious to see how it turns out. Feel free to let me know what you find out. 🙂

Dana221

Xela

Novato avanzado

Rusia

Xela

hace 3 meses

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Hola, ¿cómo fue tu llamada? ¿Qué te preguntaron?

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Xela

Dana221

Novato avanzado

Grecia

Dana221

hace 3 meses

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it's later in the afternoon

i will let you know

Dana221

Novato avanzado

Rusia

hace 3 meses

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Tenía un depósito de $11 y ahora mi saldo es de $14,000 y me dijeron que revisarían mis documentos durante 30 días. ¿Cuál es la probabilidad de que lo retiren?

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