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Daniel
hace 2 años

Hola, Daniel ,

si correcto afirmativo, no tienes suerte 2 veces seguidas. No vale la pena ganar si vas allí y pierdes todo de nuevo.


Tienes que darle algo de tiempo.

Entonces experimenta tu grado de suerte. Si es bueno, si no, ¡para!

Hay que tener cabeza para jugar en los casinos , si no , ganas 80 y gastas 100 .

Una buena técnica es limitar los depósitos al presupuesto que desea gastar.

Sin posibilidad de tener episodios de impulsividad.

Tal vez si el casino me ha pagado dentro de 3 a 5 días. Me arriesgaría a jugar y perder, pero me dio demasiado tiempo para pensar.

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Valter_Mendonca
hace 2 años

When I worked in a casino, I remember a player who won about a half of what you won. It was on Friday and we requested documents from him in order to verify the account. When I came to work on Monday, all the money was lost. The balance was literally zero.

I also remember one case when a player who wasn't really experienced when it comes to online casinos won about 30k eur. Then the verification process started, he lost about 30% during that time, but managed to withdraw the rest. Next month, I could see that the guy had another pending withdrawal, this time, it was for about 50k. I checked the account history and he was simply lucky. There was literally no pattern behind it 😀

Daniel
hace 2 años

Porque lo mejor es controlarlo, porque creer en la suerte está mal.

Yo gano 83K, el que gana no cree que ya ganó, entonces si pierde 1000 quiere recuperar y gasta otros 1000, ya son 2000 mil, y así hasta que la cantidad es casi irrecuperable.

Antes era así, ahora pienso de otra manera.

Tengo un historial con Icecasino, cuando me registré perdí 9500 euros, y pedí Autoexclusión, dije que quería cerrar la cuenta, se estancaron y me pidieron que enviara un correo electrónico a xxxxxxxxx, ok.

No lo envié, después de aproximadamente una semana estaba en Alemania por negocios, y una noche llegué al hotel y comencé a jugar, deposité 11500 euros,

cuando llegué a los 6000 mil me molesté y pedí la cantidad, siempre me la cancelaban, hice una denuncia. Y volví a jugar, llegué a 46.000, luego a 64.000 y finalmente a 83.000 euros.


conclusión iba a ser.

pero no tienes suerte 2 x .

Así que hay que aprovechar la suerte y no tirarla.

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Valter_Mendonca
hace 2 años

I totally agree with you. I think it's also a great idea to set deposit limits whenever it's possible. This way, you know you're not going to get in a situation where you lose everything during a short period of time.

You may think that losing 85k would take ages, but I saw many players who usually played 0.2 - 1 eur per spin. Then they won a lot and they started playing 50 - 100 eur bets during the same session. They lost all the winnings within an hour.

Daniel
hace 2 años

Bueno, Daniel, así es como funciona.

El juego descontrolado es destructivo.

Hacer un examen de conciencia y admitir que no tienes control es el mejor camino.

Admiro inmensamente a Casino Guru. ¿Cuál es tu objetivo en el futuro cercano?

¿Piensas en conseguir que tu plataforma sea de pago o siempre será gratuita?

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Valter_Mendonca
hace 2 años

Hello Valter,

I'd like to say that this is truly a reasonable approach, sadly the first thing addicted players usually lose while still thinking that they don't play far too much, losing much...

To the platform, as you say, well, I've been working here for a few months over a year and have never heard of such an idea.

We still aim to better the actual set of the gambling environment to be safe and reasonably sustainable, can't imagine that our "services" should be paid for. 🙂


Radka
hace 2 años

¡Pero se lo merecían! 🇧🇷

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Valter_Mendonca
hace 2 años

🙂 Thank you kindly.

I think this is not the way we want to go right now.

Valter_Mendonca
hace 2 años

We considered creating our own casino in past and I was one of those who came up with the idea. On the other hand, there are clear cons for this as well. I think the biggest one is our own reputation. When you run a casino, there are always players who are dissatisfied and you can always do some mistakes on your side. It would be quite problematic to assign ratings to other casinos while running our own casinos. Many casinos could simply claim that we gave them bad rating just because they're direct competitors of our own casino brand.

I believe many casinos are willing to cooperate with us when it comes to complaints, because they know we're not their competitors. There's also one other point as one of our founders mentioned - running a casino is a tough business. There's a huge competition in the area and enormous regulation. You can't just create the casino website, collect deposits and be successful. You currently need to have licenses for many jurisdictions or you stay in the grey zone waiting until your website gets banned in a country where you have plenty of registered players, which would be devastating for you. You also need to invest a lot into marketing, because of the huge competition you have on basically every market.

Daniel
hace 2 años

Hola, Daniel ,

de hecho, mucha competencia.

por lo tanto el valor de su trabajo,

excelente!

Para poder calificar correctamente los casinos y proteger a los jugadores.



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Valter_Mendonca
hace 2 años

Thank you. I believe we're pretty good in what we currently do so we should just stick to it and make sure that we'll be even better. There's always a room for improvements. You can never be 100% sure that you'll be satisfied in a casino that we rated well, but the statistics we have clearly show that the probability is much higher compared to casinos that we didn't give a good rating.

The same applies to complaints. We try to help everyone when the case makes some sort of sense, but we're not a police or a legal court that could simply force the casinos to do something. We can give recommendations and change ratings accordingly. Fortunately, that's enough in many cases.

Daniel
hace 2 años

Hola Daniel de verdad!

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Valter_Mendonca
hace 2 años

Hola Valter. También soy un jugador de Ice Casino y tengo una pregunta: ¿Conseguiste recuperar todos tus fondos? Pregunto esto porque actualmente me encuentro en una situación similar donde los retiros recientes han sido rechazados debido a problemas técnicos. Anteriormente había retirado con éxito con el mismo casino entre 400 y 700 EUR, pero actualmente tengo un monto total de 2100 EUR para retirar, que se divide en 900 para tarjeta bancaria y 1200 para transferencia bancaria.


Tengo los retiros en este formulario porque fueron rechazados el 14/15 con el motivo del casino por "problemas técnicos" y el método utilizado para el retiro fue una tarjeta bancaria. Me aconsejaron hacer los retiros nuevamente o probar con otro método y esta vez hice la mitad como transferencia bancaria.


En breve:

Tengo en este momento 1200 EUR por transferencia bancaria con estado "incompleto" realizada el día 16 (es decir, todavía es posible cancelar) y 900 por la tarjeta bancaria realizada el día 15 "en curso", esperando incluso si no se cancelan otra vez. El soporte, por supuesto, siempre indica lo mismo que esperar.


Honestamente, me estoy poniendo un poco ansioso porque ya debería haber recibido esta cantidad (basado en mis retiros anteriores). También vi en la red que estos "problemas técnicos" no ocurren excepcionalmente y el propio soporte dice "Créanme, dificultades como esa ocurren constantemente con diferentes métodos en diferentes países. Lo bueno es que las dificultades suelen ser menores".


Sin embargo, ya debería haber recibido mis fondos y todavía estoy esperando que todo salga bien.

Editado por el autor hace 2 años
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MachKaiko
hace 2 años

Hello,

I just waned to say that I think it's good that you submitted the complaint because it gives us chance to make sure that the casino will solve the issue and provide accurate pieces of information. Sadly, lots of players have recently started experiencing the same issues, so it makes me feel that there are other things in motion now. E.g. the casino can be short of staff because of the upcoming Christmas and the payment provider is overwhelmed. Well, I hope you'll get the winning shortly. 🤞

Editado por el autor hace 2 años
hace 2 años

Hello Radka,


Totally agree on that and I have the same exact opinion as Valter about this casino. My experience as been good so far. However, it's the lack of transparency in certain aspects that fails and make us players getting a bit anxious or even upset. Regarding my funds, one of them as been successfully withdrawn via Bank Transfer (finally) and now I'm waiting for the funds to arrive to my bank account.


Let's hope for the best

hace 2 años

I have never heard anything about Ice Casino.

MachKaiko
hace 2 años

It would be great if the casino staff should comfort the players by providing honest information about a possible delay and explaining the cause, sadly not every player is patient enough so I can imagine that this would result in losing a portion of players. But what I see as the main problem is how can the casino provide such caring support if they're short on staff e.g. Well, it's a circle 🙁

I'm happy about your funds and also appreciate your understanding. 🙂

hace 2 años

I have never heard anything about Ice Casino.

hace 2 años

Probably because players from the UK are not allowed to play there.

file

hace 2 años

That's the main point of this whole thread and goal from Casino Guru, which is to provide all possible support and reviews about different casinos. Although you're unaware of Ice Casino, this casino is licensed and not a scam actually. The main problem with this casino however is the lack of tranparency in certain aspects (we can clearly see templated answers to some things) and some delays to withdraw your funds but you get them eventually

Editado por el autor hace 2 años
MachKaiko
hace 2 años

I deleted the post you are probably responding to because it contained a forbidden link and wrong information about the rating, furthermore, it was just a work of a link-builder.

That's great that you responded though, (Just a kind reminder: please use the "reply" button, otherwise the person you wrote to will not be notified. Thank you 🙂) you made a good point.

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