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hace 1 año

Good morning, I have recently been made aware of this post and I would like to offer some further insight - hopefully to be of assistance.


I work for a bank, and recently, came across a case where a customer had been making payments to a certain online casino with a Curaçao gaming license - where the funds intended to top up his balance had been paid via card in both attempts and successful transactions to at least 7 'different' payment destinations, all of which I believe to be shell companies operating on behalf of the casino.


I believe the reasoning for these shell companies operating is quite simple, and also extremely unethical at best.


By disguising the payment destination, this is a measure that can be employed to try and evade measures such as Gamstop, as the system will fail to trigger that the payments - made to shell companies who offer kitchen supplies, baby clothes/items, online games design courses (all evidenced examples from the particular casino I am looking into) - are for a completely different purpose.


At the end of the day, disguising the payment destination is always a suspicious move - but I believe that this is being done specifically by the casino in order to evade protective measures that customers can put on their bank accounts - which I believe puts particularly vulnerable customers (who are doing what the can to protect themselves) at incredibly high risk


This is something that I have raised as part of my role, and I hope that the bank that I work for can take appropriate action to protect our customers

hace 2 semanas

Can we have a call mate, my bank declined charge backs maybe you can offer some advice to me?

Nasrin999
hace 2 semanas

Hi, I’ve played and lost significant sums at MyStake as well as their sister casinos like Velobet and Goldenbet (all under the ‘Santeda International B.V.’ brand). My transactions are coming up as to Falcora Finance so was just wondering what WLPay and Noda are? Were these card transactions or bank transfers? Just curious as not many people here seem to have played with those casinos I mention. Thank you.

hace 2 semanas

I’ve uncovered quite a lot- maybe we can have a teams call? My email is rav12@hotmail.co.uk

my story on this is a bit weird so would be great to know if you’ve had any success tracing anything back?

Nasrin999
hace 2 semanas

Yes that would be good, I’ll drop you an email later, thank you.


I’m more at the start of my journey with trying to have the funds recovered, not gone through FOS yet but bank refused to take any accountability for facilitating all these transactions even when I asked them for help because of my problem gambling.

Editado por el autor hace 2 semanas
hace 2 semanas

Great, I didn’t know there were so many people who were in the same boat as myself..

hace 2 semanas

There are ways that may be able to help but I don’t really know who to talk to about it lool

hace 2 semanas

important question if someone can reply.


i talked with the live chat on another site like casino.guru, not to mention any other websites. They said:


"False merchant codes is accepted to make a complaint about and can also be accepted for a refund request".


so how come we don’t get help from casino.guru to let the casinos refund those complaints? Because the fact that the casinos are breaking the law, they are operating illegaly with the payments making us be involved in transaction laundering.


Also casino.guru are still promoting casinos that uses fake merchant codes, how come?

Editado por el autor hace 2 semanas
hace 2 semanas

important question if someone can reply.


i talked with the live chat on another site like casino.guru, not to mention any other websites. They said:


"False merchant codes is accepted to make a complaint about and can also be accepted for a refund request".


so how come we don’t get help from casino.guru to let the casinos refund those complaints? Because the fact that the casinos are breaking the law, they are operating illegaly with the payments making us be involved in transaction laundering.


Also casino.guru are still promoting casinos that uses fake merchant codes, how come?

hace 2 semanas

Just got this reply on my complain, i bet the sites that acts like promoters of those sites are fullt aware of this scam.


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Thisisbs
hace 2 semanas

Hi, sorry I don't have any information on the ones you posted but how did you get a refund from quickbit, bitsent ect? I have payments with these that I would love to get back

Materialgirl84
hace 2 semanas

Hey, do you think it would be worth contacting them? X

hace 2 semanas

important question if someone can reply.


i talked with the live chat on another site like casino.guru, not to mention any other websites. They said:


"False merchant codes is accepted to make a complaint about and can also be accepted for a refund request".


so how come we don’t get help from casino.guru to let the casinos refund those complaints? Because the fact that the casinos are breaking the law, they are operating illegaly with the payments making us be involved in transaction laundering.


Also casino.guru are still promoting casinos that uses fake merchant codes, how come?

hace 2 semanas

Hi there. First of all, we do not promote casinos. Instead, we categorize them based on our findings. As you may see in this thread, improper merchant codes are pretty much very common, yet the situation, solution, or investigation varies based on from which country the player hails and which particular method was used. As long as we are not bank employees, ombudsmans, or internation lawyers, there is no way for us to get involved.

Did you know we were asked to delete this thread because the casino-related people thought players were trying to misuse this thread to get refunds? We ask these people to enter this thread and get in touch with players to clear out what both sides deem to be illegal. fradulent or wrong.

As you may also see, no one has reached out to this thread to support players, explain the situation, help prevent harm, or discuss the legality. We won't be the ones advocating for such occurencies; we prefer to let the players speak freely.


International law or banking procedures are sadly outside our reach.

hace 2 semanas

Querida Radka, estoy totalmente en desacuerdo contigo.

Casino Guru necesita tomar medidas como lo están haciendo otros sitios.

No hablaré de lavado de transacciones a través de códigos comerciales incorrectos, lo cual es ilegal.

Lo más importante es que estos códigos incorrectos eluden los sistemas de autoexclusión que los jugadores adictos han puesto en marcha, dejándolos completamente vulnerables.

En este caso, el gurú del casino debe tomar medidas y proteger a los jugadores con problemas y adictos.

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hace 2 semanas

Dear Radka,

I understand Casino Guru's position and its limitations in dealing with issues involving improper merchant codes, international banking laws, and legal advocacy. However, I must echo the concerns raised by other users in this thread.

While Casino Guru may not directly promote casinos, the presence of casinos using fraudulent merchant codes on your platform can inadvertently lend them credibility. By listing these casinos without taking a firm stance against their illegal practices, it creates the perception that these operations are tolerated or overlooked.

The issue here goes beyond international banking complexities. Fraudulent merchant codes are not just a technicality—they directly harm vulnerable individuals. By bypassing self-exclusion systems, these casinos exploit addicted players, undermining safeguards meant to protect them. This is a critical point that cannot be ignored.

As a platform that categorizes and reviews casinos, Casino Guru is uniquely positioned to raise awareness and advocate for ethical practices. While you may not have the authority of banks or legal institutions, you have a voice that carries weight in the gambling community. Taking a stand against casinos engaged in these harmful practices could make a meaningful difference.

hace 2 semanas

Winning streaks can be thrilling, but knowing when to stop is key.

winnerdude
hace 2 semanas

Amigo mío, ¿puedo tener tu correo electrónico?

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makelios6
hace 2 semanas

U can find me on telegram, same username as here 🙂

hace 2 semanas

Going back to Radka's post if you look at the link below will understand what we are facing and how predatory these sites are they are constantly sending me text messages each night and day and sending stuff in the post now even after reporting the severe gambling problem to them there is no escaping it at times I am using my own strength and help from a gambling therapist to resist it all, the Uk sites do not bother me at all nor do I ever try to even sign up as I know it is a complete block and any play at all results in a refund if attempted, surely they must know what they are doing is wrong the fact it is that much of a cash cow to them that they would stoop to any low to get the deposits.

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/resist-predatory-boxing-day-gambling-070035053.html

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/didn-t-didn-t-sleep-164347718.html



hace 2 semanas

Hello everyone,

I hope you're all doing well.

I’m a compulsive gambler who registered with GAMSTOP to try to control my behavior. Despite this, I found MyStake and its related sites and started gambling again. I took out loans, used credit cards, and even sold personal items to fund my addiction—things many of you might be familiar with. I acknowledge that my situation is the result of my own actions, and I take full responsibility.

Between November 2023 and April 2024, I deposited over £90,000, much of which I took from family members. I lied to friends, and now, I've ended up with a CAT6 Cifas marker on my record. One of my bank accounts was closed after I attempted chargebacks from MyStake, FreshBet, and GoldenBet (all run by Santeda International). These requests were declined, and I asked MyStake to close my account in Feb 2024, which they confirmed was permanently closed. However, they later lied about this, stating it was just a time-out, even though I have documentation proving it. CasinoGuru also rejected my claim, as I didn’t mention I had a gambling problem, just that I wanted to stop due to my losses.

I’m in the process of filing a complaint with the FOS, though I’m not optimistic about recovering any funds since it’s Santeda International responsible for payouts, and I doubt they will cooperate.

While I recognize that my actions are my own, I can’t help but wonder if what Santeda International is doing is actually illegal.

Here’s the breakdown: 75% of my deposits went directly to Santeda International, and the remaining funds were sent to the following companies (depending on their discretion):

TransferOp Payment Gateway

Ryker Development (GoldenBet)

Falcora Finance (MyStake & FreshBet)

What concerns me is that every single transaction was processed through Noda WL Pay—a UK-registered entity licensed by the FCA. I’m curious, how can the FCA allow this?

Additionally, the bank accounts used by Santeda, TransferOp, Ryker, and Falcora are all registered in the UK, including Modulr FS and ClearBank, which are well-known institutions. The other two accounts seem to be from an FX exchange company, with one even appearing to be a personal account.

If anyone here has knowledge in FCA regulations, financial law, banking, or compliance, I would greatly appreciate your insights on whether this activity is legal. I’d much rather pursue a UK-based company than one operating out of Curacao.

Lastly, I noticed that Santeda’s registered address is also the location of another company, Sadekya, which offers gambling licenses. In fact, it seems like many gambling companies are based there.

I’ve also requested a full credit report because I plan to take action against these companies if I can’t recover my money. I have very little faith the FOS will be of help.

And just to clarify, for those who say it’s all my fault—I know. I take full responsibility. But I believe the UK has systems in place to protect people like me who struggle with addiction, and in cases like mine (and for thousands of others), we need support to get out of debt and rebuild the relationships we’ve damaged. We’re sorry, but trust is broken, and it’s hard to rebuild that.

Dopamine
hace 1 semana

Drop me a note on rav12@hotmail.co.uk as need some help

Sutton
hace 1 semana

hi mate im at the beginning of my journey, but can’t find Andreas email anywhere.. is there any chance you could leave it here?

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